I rode atop a beetle and killed people with a pitchfork. Killing them in the most ridiculous fashion XD
Ive not bothered to mine. I dont have time for that so i sell plex.
Looking at all that, it looks like the miners have to be extremely sweaty whilst mining, all while peeps can just warp in and kill them, and having to fit a relatively expensive ship.
Seems a bit sht but i guess they should have escorts. People in my corp do protect miners if needed and recently one defended himself with drones and a buddy.
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If you mine in an out of the way system, youāre fine. Basically most mining fleets do not engage in opsec at all, thus get blapped.
Iād forgotten what this thread was about, Githany. There are just so many of them dealing with what you call (rather dramatically) a āscourgeā.
I went back to the top to read your original post again, and Iām glad I did, for there I noticed the words Iāve quoted, above.
You want to help stop ganking in Highsec. I donāt think Iāve ever seen you write your aim quite so starkly.
Not even Dracvlad (and Co.) have said they wish to go that far.
Unless I have misunderstood you, of course.
You see, seen in that light, your efforts will be ineffective - unless you have the backing of the gameās designers. Is there more to your organisation than white-knights and woolly-wishes? Concerned gamers want to know!
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I do not believe mining or ganking were part of the original idea of eve, We can be what ever we want to be but in the same respect , Iām not going to say statements like happened in the last war" We want Goons removed from the game " when I heard that I thought , well that plans doomed, we will never remove ganking but once people couldnāt fight them because of various factors. Now we have changed the face of ganking forever and inflict substantial losses.
Our movement will continue and more will fall, remember gankers are just the tip of the iceberg
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The Tip of which Iceberg, Githany? Which other playstyles would you like to banish from the game? Worth a couple more threads?!
She wants to eliminate lowsec pvp as well, but she doesnāt really mean it, sheās just a ltitle high and drunk and roleplaying as someone who plays EVE.
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was this the iceberg that sank the titanic, is ag a modern version of the titanic.
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You know I donāt , just want to stop the bully boy tactics where ever they be.
Ps how was dune
Ahh another Dune fan? And Aiko is a Dune fan as well? People of culture I see. Iām hopefully watching it tonight. I still think the perfect Baron Harkonenn was the guy from the Sci-Fi mini series.
You canāt and wonāt. While CCP may or may not have originally intended for hi-sec ganking, itās pretty clear that they whole-heartedly embrace it now. Ganking helps fight inflation - both you and the ganker(s) lose your ships and ~50% of your mods. Ganker may profit, but overall it removes wealth from economy. So trying to fight against ābully boy tacticsā is fighting against CCP itself. And youāre not gonna win that fight.
And no, Iām not a ganker alt. I actually fking despise ganking. Mostly cuz Iām jealous of them getting a free pass while CCP fkd over can-flipping and one-man wardecs. But also cuz itās a crappy game mechanic completely stacked in favor of the aggressor. Iād like to think there are better ways to mitigate inflation, but this is CCP weāre talking aboutā¦ so weāre stuck with ganking. (Until all the victims decide to win EvE, but by then it will be too late.)
Very good.
Thatās why I will not give up , with enough of us we can change anything, look how ganking has changedl
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im curious how has ganking changed ? in your opinion,
in every patch/nerf ganking has had to change . ganking is an evolving process, back in the day it was a few folk in a niche profession. as valid forms of highsec naughtiness was removed/ nerfed one by one more folk were funnelled into ganking as options decreased.
over time the gankers also got nerfed and we had to get better and tighter to overcome the nerf ( and we did ) , then we were nerfed again and we got tighter and nerfed again . ganking has been in a constant flux of change for as long as i remember but we just come back harder every time we get nerfed, and so many nerfs lol its not funny anymore.
ganking is always changing to the conditions of the game and the choice of prey so whats new. thats EVE
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Are you trolling me? Or are you really that delusional? Itās hard to tell.
Other than insurance, how has ganking ever been nerfed?
i am guessing you have not ganked over the last 15 years.
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Using local is only practical when thereās less than 20 or so people. Once it gets beyond that, the window has to be made too large to see everyone on it, and by the time you get to 30 - 40 people the natural variation makes it much harder to spot groups of 5 or so ( which Iāve seen on Zkillboard kill off a Procurer ) turning up.
But heckā¦that doesnāt go with the āsimpleā narrative does it.
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I have not. But I am aware of the changes that have been made. But those changes (insurance, hp boosts, hull resists, sec status hits, etc) have never stopped ganking. If anything, ganking has only increased over the years. So itās hard to take the idea of it having been nerfed seriously. Yeah more people have been funneled into ganking which definitely contributes to prevalence. But when folks are ganking targets for fun, without even bothering to scan their fit/cargo, and still coming out ahead in the long run, you know the changes havenāt been effective.
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As Vladimir says above, ganking is ridiculously stacked in favour of the aggressor. Gix wants to believe the myth that people who get ganked are naive, stupid, not alert, etc, etcā¦but even a cursory look at zkillboard shows that people arenāt getting ganked for want of shielding. And whilst being alert may eliminate 99% of ganksā¦the victim only has to make a mistake once. The odds are always stacked in favour of the ganker.
And they must always be, by definition, as in PvP it must always be possible to overcome armour, shielding, etc otherwise there would be invincible ships and PvP would become meaningless.
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My problem with ganking is people calling it PvP. Piracy is of course part of Eve, but 23 Catalysts shooting up a largely defenceless Procurer that cannot fire back should be called just piracy. Calling ganking PvP is like calling the mugging of some little old lady a āstreet fightā.
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