Ah, I was wondering when the IRL comparisons would resurface. Please, do go on to describe how this game is like real life.
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Itâs just as full of evasive people 
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I have no idea what you are talking about. 
Hello Vladimir, your comments interest me.
Heavân forbid that anyone should play a video game in order to have fun!
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Lol me delusional , whatâs wrong with you , you sound bitter and defeated, eve is a hard game and you have to fight for your part of it , isnât that the point and why so many like it . @Aaaarrgg is right about all the things that have changed , ganking is hard to do ,so is anti-ganking but we donât lay down and take it .
Only the other day I was talking to a ganker and he told me this group had lost over 2b due to ag , not a major blow but one that gave him concern over ag units in the area disrupting his activities.
CCP will always tweak but you need to work around things and adapt how you play .
For me ,things have changed in eve , never has the anti criminal movement been so strong and active, many pilots no longer cower down in their holes , worried about what code and war Decers will do to them or their corps, we band together and fight.
Now towers fall , freighters can be saved from the best gankers in the game if we organise well, we can push gankers out of areas or keep them on there toeâs.
We are a small force of rebels that fly against the grain , doing stuff people said could not be done .
How am I delusional or a trollâŚ
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Iâm pretty sure you know what I meant, but Iâll rephrase it for you - âBut when folks are ganking targets casually with little forethought or planningâ. Better? Really though, you donât need to forum warrior with selective quoting and intentional misinterpretation. Nothing is going to change, ganking will continue because CCP supports it.
Wow. Laying it on with a trowel there.
Ah, the truth comes out⌠Not a police force at all, but REBELS.
Apologies Vladimir; let me try again.
I donât know any gankers of non-mining vessels who donât undertake the sensible measures set out by you. There may be some. Good luck to them!
Others may get lucky, of course, but I do take issue with your statement that âfolksââŚâare still coming out ahead in the long runâ.
If your arguments in support of this view are, âif they didnât, they wouldnât do itâ, or âthey shouldnât be able to profit from itâ, i can present myself as (admittedly, formerly) prime evidence that I could and did fund my activities entirely out of my real-world pocket, and I never sought to make a profit. Not everyone is the same.
My second disagreement concerns your loose comment âyou know the changes havenât been effectiveâ. Youâre intelligent enough to realise that CCP has the data which inform their decision-making about balance in the game. I guess your idea of balance and theirs diverge.
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I wonder why people feel the need to debate. CCP has clearly examined the issue, and come to their conclusions. Nothing said here will change that.
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No my argument in support of this is numerous players posting on these forums that they come out ahead on average. I guess they could be lying, so perhaps that makes me naive? I dunno. Regardless, I do agree that good gankers should profit. But apparently you donât even need to be âgoodâ, you just need to keep throwing cats at any random shinies until loot fairy says âyesâ.
Refer to my one of my posts above. I believe CCP likes easy ganking, cuz it kills lots of ships and mods which helps regulate the economy/inflation. Short-sighted imo, but itâs their game.
Perhaps you only associate with a higher class of lowlife then? Take a look thru zkill for hi-sec ganks. Youâll find plenty of shiny ships with only T2/meta fits, presumably because gankers are running the law of averages and depending on player stupidity. And because Iâm sure you donât want to take the time to do it yourself Iâll toss up a few from just this weekend - and this is only a few quick grabs from the first page, not and exhaustive search.
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Mostly because itâs cathartic to vent. Youâre right, nothing will change, Iâve already said it plenty of times.
Thanks, Vladimir; tho, if you had begun your comments with this statement I should have found it easier to place them in context. No matter, all sorted now.
I havenât actually seen any of these posts. There might be one, but can you please support your claim with links to ânumerousâ posts from gankers bragging about their insane profits? Also, if ganking is so easy and profitable, why arenât you doing it?
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Uh. Its called scrolling. If you see red - enter into the system, you know its someone with ill intent LOL. Youâll grasp at any straw huh? How hard is it to watch local while the mining lasers do their thing? Mining isnât exactly hard. Again you keep referencing zkill instead of in-game experience. Says it all bruv
Again you keep quoting Zkill. Its obvious you def donât play much and have not witnessed ganking in person. Odds are only stacked in favor of the ganker because people donât actually play smart. And if being alert eliminated 99% of ganks, then ganking isnât really a problem LOL.
If 14k people are playing, 1% of them is only 140. A 140 people ganked vs 14k? Doesnât seem like too much of a problem LOL.
The problem is the âvictimâ mentality in the first place.
All is PvP. Youâre right. It is your problem. Also a proc can fight back. If mining fleets were smart theyâd tank up, focus fire with drones and most likely succeed in driving off smaller gangs.
At least sheâs doing something besides crying on the forums about gankers.
Thats player stupidity LOL. Most people ganked do not play the game intelligently at all. Hell, a guy who got ganked gave 6.8 BILLION ISK to his ganker ROFL. They gank themselves mate.
You can bank on that. Most players can barely fit a ship somehow.
Oh almost forgot , some of our guys tested out mining in a sys with gankers in , we mined got ganked and lived, although I do feel the gank was a bit half hearted.
I think @Aiko_Danuja had a date and wanted to leave
Unfortunately our Ew burst frig hit an NPC miner and after time the NPC protection fleet turned up and killed our frig but the barge only lost its shields to the gankers.
And as a bonus no security status hit for our burst pilot.
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Was passing thru Uedama and decided to stop for a bit and watch the mighty police force. Hereâs some adviceâŚ
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You are dealing with Arty Ruptures with no tracking boosts and your boys are letting them sit there stationary. You should be playing ping-pong with their ships and constantly bumping them. Even a little bit of motion is gonna make things harder for a 720 at 15km. Eventually heâll be forced to stay off grid and warp in for his kills, more for him to manage, more likely for things to go wrong for him.
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Nobody was focusing on the looter. Somebody should be set up 180km+ off the gate with triple point, to warp to the wreck, bump the hauler, and kill the Sunesis. Itâs probably not gonna stop the loot transfer all that often, but itâll be more the multi-boxxer has to deal with, and ideally adds a dessie kill to his losses. But if you wanna do it proper, you gank the hauler with your own dessies.
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Most people are not criminalsâŚ
Eh? Since when?
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To the person necroflagging ancient posts, I just have to ask why on earth its worth your time to do so?
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That was precisely my point tooâŚthe myth of the âstupid, lazy, unawareâ miner that gankers love to propound in their usual condescending manner. The whole idea that if someone is ganked it is somehow THEIR faultâŚand not the fact that 23 Catalysts showed up with overwhelming firepower.
A quick look on zKillboard shows that most miners ARE adequately tanked upâŚthe âlazyâ insult simply doesnât apply. As for unawareâŚIâve seen Procurers in zKillboard taken down by as few as 5 ships. Hard to keep track of that in Local where there may be 40 people and variations of 5 or more quite regularly.
Even the advice about aligning to an exit point is not always validâŚas gankers can simply follow a personâs routine and be there waiting at the asteroid belt.
LolâŚIâm not the one whoâs every post is an exercise in condescension rather than actually responding to the points. Stupid miners. Stupid, stupid, miners. That is effectively your response to everything.