If you were, would that make you odd too?
What a silly question. Oddity confirmed I guess. 
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Yup, just like that. Anyway letâs not derail the thread any longer. 
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I appreciate you sticking around.
Try other humans. Lame even from you.
Why? It isnât your game. What benefit does it do you if players stay or go?
Excuse me, sir. I pay for my subscriptionâŚme. So I will play the game as I see fit.
The day you pay for my subscription will be the day I do what you tell me to do.
If you pay, then play as you like. I fault no one for that.
I just paid to play for little more challenge than that.
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I understand. But I donât challenge myself with computer games, especially not MMOs knowing that thereâre cheaters and cheating methods a plenty. Thatâs no challenge, itâs just a sure way to frustration and rage-quitting.
I challenge myself at work, these days more precisely, with work.
I play for enjoyment, not frustration.
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I have been VERY, and I do mean VERY lucky with my career when I was younger. That challenge does not exist anymore. Even though before that changed, I joined EVE because at the time I wanted to go up against the best the internet/humans had to offer!
EVE was so unique at the time, I just have a hard time replacing it now. Frankly, it ruined other games that were supposed to be hard, but if youâre not chill, theyâre notâŚ
Iâm not picking on your play style, just pissed I canât find that challenge in any game anymore. EVE was supposed to be a retirement game for me! 
I had invested so much time when that was important. No RMT back then. Lose an acct and you were screwed. now we have lazy players who just want to chill. I just donât know what else to tell you why I am the way I amâŚ
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My occupation is very interesting to me and still challenges me and more importantly it keeps me occupied and keeps my purse full.
I joined EVE for interactive entertainment.
Have you considered that maybe you gamed for too long, youâre bored with pc games and now itâs time to do something else?
Maybe youâre generalizing as it seems that way to you but not all EVE players can be casuals, there must be some hard-core players left.
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Alot more got screwed up with that patch 5-6 days ago⌠The price histories on countless items got totally scrambled with price histories of other items ⌠They sure did made a mess of everything with that patch⌠
Are there though? 
And thatâs my only beef with where the game went. I joined a game where it was every one vs everyone. Quite the thrill back then. I accepted the fact that I would never be able to catch up with the bitter old vets even back then. I took that in stride as I know I was good only being that far behind. Learning skills were a good measure of how dedicated to the game you were. Glad theyâre gone, donât worry, but I hope you get my point. I watch the numbers stagnate. We needed Plex and skill injectors or the game would be really dead by now if you told a new player there was no way to catch up with a 20 yr old vet skill wise. Yet now the player base just wants to chill. I put a lot of time and effort into the game when those options were not available, and I hate to see CCP let them be abused. At least in my eyes anyway.
I thank all the spelling and punctuation police of now long gone era for making me spend more time spellchecking than typing!
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I do get your point. You were there when EVE was at its rawest â unforgiving, demanding, and incredibly rewarding for those who committed. That kind of intensity leaves a lasting impression. I respect that you put in the time and effort when it was all about grit and long-term planning, and I can imagine itâs frustrating to see mechanics now that seem to shortcut what once took real dedication.
But I also think itâs just the natural evolution of things. Games age, players age, and the communities around them shift with the times. EVE wouldnât have survived without adapting. You mention PLEX and Skill Injectors being necessary to keep the game alive â thatâs kind of the crux of it, right? CCP had to make it more accessible, or it really mightâve gone the way of so many other MMOs.
That doesnât mean the core of EVE is gone. There are still players â maybe fewer, maybe harder to find â who go hard, who theorycraft, who roam Null and Low looking for challenging content. Itâs just less visible, perhaps, under all the newer, more casual-geared mechanics.
So maybe the challenge now isnât finding a game as punishing as EVE once was⌠maybe the challenge is adapting to a different era of the same game, and finding new meaning in it. Whether thatâs mentoring, leading fleets, starting drama in local, or even just seeing how much you can still shake things up after all these years. That could still be your legacy if/when you decide to shape it.
Or is just abuse? 
@DeMichelle_Geniale I respect and thank you for an honest reply. Far better than the one above!
All that did was make me rich in game. All I did was give it away to noobs on the forums who had at least a sense of humor over their loss. 5 bil at whack just hoping it would make news and bring in a few new players. Funny part is I watch my friends put so much effort into super bowl betting, I swear, if they put that much into a rl biz, they would be rich in rl. I probably would be better off if I had done the same with eve.
Made me fuzzy. Not gonna try that again when they donât want to learn.
Theres no one left to lead? You know better! 
Gawd, that was fun! But now thatâs gone also.
Them rules have changed. There is no small corps anymore. No new player will ever fell the spine tingling feeling of winning over much superior odds. CCP is happy with the numbers/milking.
You just donât like it because itâs true.
Donât worry. I found a way out.
The unconditional surrender kind of way?