About Bumping

Nothing prevents you from pointing the target to prevent warp.

As to bumping, my proposal does not prevent bumping either, the purpose/function of which is to displace the ship, it just wont prevent warp.

He keeps repeating this, I think we might have broken him, guys…

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The purpose of bumping, is to displace the ship from its current location, is it not?

Warp scrams/disruptors/bubbles do not do that.

And if I don’t have a point available?

I would use the available tool…my ship.
At least until I can get the point to where it needs to be.

No. The purpose of bumping is to not have two ships in the same space AND to avoid having to use ramming damage mechanics.

Players found an unintended use for this mechanic, and CCP OK’d it.

–Gadget also points to Chloe for unintended uses :wink:

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Then you would be SOL, and did not bring the tools to point, as your choice.

You can still bump them though with your ship, just not to prevent warp as those modules would have, as they are intended to do, if you had brought them.

Why are trying to remove tools from EvE?

–Curious Gadget

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The tools already exist, but are being supplanted by this mechanic.

You can use warp scram/disruptor/bubbles for this specific purpose.

But you cannot bump a ship with them.

The equity remains constant,
You can still bump, and if you want to interfere with warp, use the dedicated modules.

A ship can and will
Argument invalidated
Again

This tool exists, and has been approved by CCP.

Your proposal would remove it, by changing the underlying mechanics for no other reason than to change this tool.

I see a waste of resources.

Haven’t the points and scrams already undergone their tiericide?

–Pointed Gadget

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I can certainly name one poster I won’t be believing in future…

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Bumping will still bump ships.

Warp scram/disruptor/bubble will still prevent warp.

But neither will do what the other does.

He

just

keeps

saying

that

doesn’t

he?

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Scrams turn off MWD’s.

Wanna turn that function off too… y’know, for more equity?

–Gadget scrams - stage left

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No, nor is it relevant to bumping.

Its part of what defines scrams from disruptors.

Bumping will not turn off MWD either, nor does it now.


Bumping will continue to displace a ship, as is its core function.
But if you want to prevent warp, then use the tools for that.

The main difference between scrams and points is range vs potency. Scrams have an added bonus.
This is relevant to your argument - the one you’re using about bumping.

Scramblers will still apply more points of No-Warp than disruptors at the cost of range.

Your logic should also apply to scrams having the MWD interference removed.

I’m disputing the logic behind your argument about bumping.

–Gadget loves connect-the-dots

Yep

Because that what happen when you’re a fool, you believe what you say and ignore the truth

Your point was MWD in relation to bumping.
MWD is not, and will not be negated by bumping.

Yes, so nothing changes there.

No, my logic focuses on the physical displacement of a ship as the function of bumping.

In my proposal, that will not be changed.
You can still bump a ship.

It just means that to prevent warp, you need to use modules that prevent warp.


TLDR:
Bump will bump.
Warp preventers will prevent warp.

Its very simple.

No.
I posted my point, and even laid out the path I was taking to get there.
It’s about the logic behind your argument.


Bumping can disrupt warping - a tactic approved by CCP.
Nothing needs to change at all, because tools need not be equal.
It’s that simple.

–Gadget likes the simple things in life

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The fun part about all these bumping fixes is what would happen outside Jita, the flags would go up and the ■■■■ would hit the fan :joy:

I don’t know why you bring this up. I do not see the connection to my post.

Why do you bring it up?

Please do not claim that something is something when you lack the authority for doing so. Bumping someone is not an aggressive action. Respect the fact that your opinion is not truth and you are not in a position to declare it a fact.

Fact is that bumping is not an aggressive action as defined by the game’s rules, and these are the only ones that matter. Our collective opinions are irrelevant. You can not declare “truth” here (as in “bumping is an aggressive action” compared to “bumping comes across an aggressive action”), because it is your opinion and your opinion does not matter to those who make the rules: CCP. We can not have a conversation where someone makes up his own facts, and instead we need to respect language and what really is.

Sorry, I know E-Prime. Though, to be fair … it is not like any of this talk matters. It does not. Nothing here really matters. Forums are places for those who somehow believe their nonsense matters to anyone but themselves. This is not directed at you personally.