Somewhat related, did anyone notice the new Pochven changes? You now need a $30m key to enter the gate to be able to attack players. That’s $30m per player.
TLDR: PvP in Pochven now requires ISK.
Reddit has an interesting ongoing discussion on it.
Somewhat related, did anyone notice the new Pochven changes? You now need a $30m key to enter the gate to be able to attack players. That’s $30m per player.
TLDR: PvP in Pochven now requires ISK.
Reddit has an interesting ongoing discussion on it.
I’m confused by seeing these three words in the same sentence.
Having said that, I think you should start a new thread on it. I actually don’t know how the regulars will lean on this. Unlike in most of the other topics started here where I know exactly what each one of them is going to say before they say it.
Mr Epeen
Haha.
You asked at the end for people to discuss issues with it and when they do, you say, “You obviously didn’t read or understand it”
As if your proposal could have anything wrong with it.
What it does is force everyone, Blackflag, Wrecking Machine, myself included, etc etc that wants to own the PoCo’s in LS/HS and Moon Mine, and have Upwells in space(especially since i didnt change any of the current War Dec Mechanics) to have to:
Interact with the Market and/or LP stores to fuel every single PoCo and Upwell in space.
Interact with the Faction Standings system to be allowed to place a structure in that Empire’s borders. (.5 sys need 5 standing with your corporation/alliance for that Empire)
and with an ADM (sort of) sys, you have to be clearing the ore and rats in that system you want to deploy in as well.
Anyone that does not want to do this…well they dont have, but they dont get to own PoCo’s or Upwells, or POS towers, and do not have to deal with War Decs.
And the Devs do not have to spend a ridiculous amount of time reinventing the wheel
They’ve been “reinventing the wheel” since day one. Most of you people wouldn’t have lasted a day before the two decades of reinvention made EVE a game that hands you everything on a silver platter.
You people need to stop the hyperbole.
Mr Epeen
ive been playing since 2009, so dont direct your bittervet remarks at me. If you have nothing actually constructive to say, STFU and go suck an egg.
All you do is troll and remark badly at everyone on the forums with nothing ever to say with any substance.
It wasn’t that bad back in the day. Wasn’t that bad at all.
More hyperbole. If you post an absolute it only takes one example of you being wrong to knock down the whole house of cards. And there are plenty more than one example in here.
Most of you are too busy sniffing your own farts to pay attention to any post but your own.
Stop posting everything in absolutes, people. It makes it too easy for me to shame you.
Mr Epeen
I can’t disagree.
I felt great after busting a nut for a week to have a million ISK in my wallet. These days you can make a hundred times that in a few minutes.
And that’s only one example of hundreds why back then EVE was a game and now it’s an operant conditioning chamber. Players these days are a bunch of trained pigeons.
Mr Epeen
Defenders already have participated by the act of placing a structure and thus opening themselves to wardec. If they choose not to defend the structure…that is a player problem not a game problem.
That moment when you realise that being abducted by the aliens and taken to Beta Reticuli is the only way of escaping forum BS…
This. The current generation of EVE players tend to be of the “press button, receive bacon” type…
I love my bacon… Bacon, bacon, bacon…
You should have linked it…
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit having enough time to read forums!
I can’t catch up with all the posts tonight, and I’m still trying to get some feedback from people I know in-game. I’m also not finished reading Kezrai’s proposal and it looks like there mya be a couple more in here now as well.
Thank you all for replyying and thinking about htis, I’ll catch upo further on the weeknd.
Take your time. There has been no good idea in how long now?
Abandon all hope, all ye who enter this discussion…
Simple works for me. I added likes and comments for @Arthur_Aihaken’s straight +25/+50% bonuses, and for @stefnia_Freir’s suggestions for 1 medium Upwell allowed, and @Gloria_Exercitus’ for increasing citadel defenses. All of which were simple and easy, But I do also see that some issues don’t have simple answers, since none of thos suggestion give defender corp any assistance in fighting back, much less winning a war. SO I think its not so simple to fix.
I did manage to pin down some guys in 2 corps this weekend (one indy, one social) to ask what they thought. But small selection abnd biased, since neither corp is war eleigible and neither one wants to be.
I started out asking “Hey guys, forum post I did, Wardecs, asking how to fix, go read see what you think”. Nobody was interested in reading. In fact, turns out nobody was interested in ficing Wardecs. As far as they were concerned wardecs are solved - don’t be in an eligible corp, and if you do end up in one and get dec’d, either leave or just log on some other character.
So I gave the quickie versions in chat. General feedback was, +25/+50% bonuses would be nice but probably too abusable. 1 Free Medium Upwell sounded good and people in both corps said maybe the corp would use that, so long as no wars resulted. But they already have NPC and other corps Upwells to work out of so maybe not.
I was surprised when the idea of “better defenses for citadels” was actually given a “bad idea” vote by 3 people, and not much response from the others. Although I got distracted and didnt ask ‘why’ it was a bad idea.
For Kezrai’s idea, keeping in mind the “1 minute rule”, I said “Okay, next idea: Wardec happens, defender chooses which actions they can complete in order to win, mining or missions or whatever, and those tasks are scored to give defenders a fair chance to compete even against larger full-PvP corps. Rewards are 8% bonus on all payouts and mining, and if they win, a chunk of ISK from the losing corp. Souund good?”
Had some some questions about the tasks etc which I could only semi-answer, but again the feedback was “Meh. 8% isn’t that much. Probably avoid them anyway.” And apparently unless the ISK reward is at least a billion, people didn’t think much of that either.
So that’s the biased feedback from some multi-year vets who’re already in the habit of avoiding wardecs, which maybe isn’t so useful. Buit it’s all I got.
Finishing reading now to see if any other cool stuff I’ve missed.