Been playing about a week now

New Citizens Q&A
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First want to say this is a fantastic game so thank you, long time MMO player who put this game off for a long time due to hearing it was a pvp-centric game (I like pvp but enjoy pve too). Lot of depth and for a new player the learning curve is pretty tough and I’m ok with that. But as I play this I ask myself why more people aren’t playing it. And I think the answer is new players see so much depth and are so confused they can’t handle it. Can’t comment on much else since I haven’t experienced any of it.

Secondly the new player channel is fantastic. Through that I received answers and help on some really dumb questions that I had. Even had a player help me out by purchasing me a ship and leading me through the fits which was terribly confusing.

But for what it’s worth here’s some suggestions from my rookie point of view while I’m thinking about it.

Suggestions:

Looting wrecks. When you kill a handful or more ships in a small area and have to fly to each one of them to loot it, that’s great realism and all. But it’s probably not necessary for immersion and sometimes I just can’t do it because of the tedium of flying over to all of them individually. Allowing for a loot function that will loot from all ships in the area (say a 10km sphere) when you open your cargo would be a nice thing. Lets you get back to the fun stuff. Also flagging them somehow on overview as to which has been looted would be nice.

Starter missions. These are extremely enjoyable but some of the mechanics of things they require you to do are beyond what is explained. And this is not the kind of game that it’s easy to figure out the how/why. Examples are when you’re told as a first quest to align to any object but the only object you can align to in order to finish said quest is the base which is very confusing. Or when you’re told to make a small ship and put it in your hold but it won’t fit in your hold so the quest itself is misleading when all you have to do is talk to the agent. Or when you fly out to a site and kill the ships but then have to go back to get the item in your hold (I am careful and have done that 2x) that allows for quest completion but when you return there is nothing to loot. I believe it would be worth your effort to smooth those starter missions and make them idiot proof. Basic idea is that those quests should be able to escort most players through so that their questions on the rookie channel are the more basic things like how do I leave my pod etc. Also objects needed for a mission going straight into your hold upon mission acceptance would be helpful on the starter missions (fewer confused new players).

Starter Agents. So I got lost somehow and ended up at the wrong station and couldn’t find my agent after completing an early step. Then being the idiot I am I just started doing missions that were much more difficult before finally figuring out where I went wrong. Not sure how many people are my special level of stupid but when a new player is trying to figure out what exactly an agent is or does it would be nice to have it hammered into their head that those are the agents they should finish with before doing anything else. And maybe that’s done in the quests and I just missed it idk.

Please don’t take this as a new person trying to change things. Just suggestions based on things that kicked my rear end in this first week. Having a great time this is a heck of a game.

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You can tell if you’ve already checked a wreck if it is grey. If the wreck is empty, the wreck icon is just an empty triangle. If there is a square over a triangle, the wreck has loot

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Good to know Duke. You just saved me a lot of time in game lol thanks.

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About looting within an area: there are deployable structures called mobile tractor units that you can deploy, and they will loot all wrecks that belong to you within a hundred or so km. They do take time to loot each wreck, more time the farther away the wreck is as it has to tractor it in before it loots, but if you deploy it at the beginning of a mission, you can go to it at the end and all the loot will be in it.

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Firstly: Welcome to New Eden. Great to hear you are enjoying it. It gets better the deeper you wade into it. I quite envy you the journey ahead of you.

There are ships and tools that help with salvaging - I frequently finish a mission by tidying up the wreckage. Either with a Mobile Tractor Unit (which steadily tractor beams wrecks to itself) or with a Noctis salvaging ship - long range tractor beams, salvagers and salvage drones. You can build a cut-price salvage ship using a Destroyer fitted with tractors and salvagers.

As you may have realised: Eve is deep and complex, there are many different things to experience and ways to life your life in game. The best advice to any new player: make your own furrow - don’t just do something because one of says it’s right or wrong.

Feel free to ask any questions here, or mail me in game, and I’ll try and answer them.

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Good to hear that you’re enjoying it @Makronax_Solarius. Ultimately, having fun is what it’s all about.

For what it’s worth though, quite a few people play this for the mining, industry, PvE and so on without actually being heavily into PvP (although you do need to be ever mindful of it’s existence or you will be ganked…).

… for a new player the learning curve is pretty tough and I’m ok with that. But as I play this I ask myself why more people aren’t playing it. And I think the answer is new players see so much depth and are so confused they can’t handle it.
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… the new player channel is fantastic. Through that I received answers and help on some really dumb questions that I had. Even had a player help me out by purchasing me a ship and leading me through the fits which was terribly confusing.

EVE does have an almost legendarily steep learning curve but stick with it because it will be worth it in time.

In EVE, possibly more than any other game, you will definitely find some very bad people wherever you go but there are also an equal amount of genuinely helpful players, in places like rookie chat and elsewhere, who are happy to help (me included - feel free to email questions in the game, or post them here, and I’ll try answer them if I can).

As far as the rest of your post goes …

Looting wrecks…

@Tyerex_Hopillion got there before me with the mention of mobile tractor units. They’re not cheap but you’ll find them indispensable when it comes to ratting and wreck recovery.

You’ll also find Salvage Drones pretty essential. Just remember not to fly off without them once you’ve recovered the loot though. I think most of us have done that at least once when we were starting out so don’t beat yourself up too much if you do, just try to learn from it.

Starter missions …
I believe it would be worth your effort to smooth those starter missions and make them idiot proof … those quests should be able to escort most players through …

Fair points.

… Not sure how many people are my special level of stupid

As above, don’t be too hard on yourself. EVE is really hard on a bunch of levels and the fact that you’re here means that you’re far from stupid. We all screw up multiple times when we’re newbies (see ‘flying off without drones’ above) stick with it and you’ll be fine.

Having a great time this is a heck of a game.

Like a lot of us. Welcome.

:mouse:

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Welcome friend :wave: Glad you are enjoying it so far

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Totally new to this but can recognise some of the frustrations. I’ve just completed the Career Agent challenges and now looking for the next step. What is Gank?

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Ganking is when people kill you in high-sec. I wouldn’t worry about it too much unless you buy ships you can’t afford to loose. I would try out exploration, its pretty fun.

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Hey Koda. After the career agents I did the SOE arc missions. You should have a GM email that explains who and where (it takes you across all of high sec space just about) or you can google the arc there’s a lot of stuff out there.

I found a couple of fights in that arc to be tough for a frigate btw. So buy yourself a destroyer which is nice because you can fit it with a salvage and still kill everything the mission requires. If you have the cash for T2 then I’m sure you can do it with a frigate but I had a lot of fun learning the destroyer while doing the mission.

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Thanks for the insight. From Rookie Help someone suggested joining a faction, what’s your thoughts?

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