December Release - General Feedback

I feel rather foolish right now. I thought this HyperNet relay thing was going to be a fringe mechanic that hardly anybody used - it makes no logical sense. I forgot about human nature.

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But wait, there’s more.

Noticed today that when you look at a page of results in the market transactions tab, that when you (are forced to) scroll down from the top of the results, let’s say half way down the page, and then go forward to the next page of results, the scroll bar position remains where you left it, and does NOT snap to the top of the results on the next page as you’d expect. This means you now have an additional action to the ones I mentioned at first… scrolling back up to the top of the next page.

Further to this, the triangle button at the top of the market transactions tab, below the PLEX button graphic. What is the purpose of me being on the market transactions tab in the first place? To see my recent market transactions. That information is the priority, obviously because it’s the category on the left (aka tab) that I chose to view. So you’d expect that the triangular “hide” button at the top will hide the 3 large graphical buttons and not the information I asked to see. Try to contain your disappointment when the opposite occurs.

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Yes, it’s a scam.

Not like everybody told it before.

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Although not the right place, where can someone file/post syntactical or orthography correction request about ship traits?

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I think the in-game bug report tool should be sufficient, probably that will reach the relevant people the fastest… I guess.

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Umm yeah, but complains were spoken and repeated a few times. Most players don’t visit forums.

Or they know their opinion and criticism is pointless because even if CCP knows they delivered a ■■■■ change/feature, the work has been already paid for and so they won’t throw it away. Well unless majority of the nullseccers unsub. But that is unlikely, so this new horrible wallet (and bookmarks menu) stays.

Also, most gaming and MMO websites still counts EVE as a MMO with 300k players and I bet CCP are seeing it as such as well. If you look at EVE this way, complains of few players on forums are insignificant and to be ignored.

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SpellingNazis like myself have been told by GMs to use the ingame bug reporting tool for that.

:slight_smile:

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Well, now that it’s live, the math problems are still there, the asstastic ‘factors of 1024’ thing is still there, and it’s been completely losing items so much that they’ve taken the HyperNet Relay down completely on 2 out of 2 days… I’m’a go out on a limb here and say that maybe CCP’s QA process needed more work on this feature.

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Oh, this feature is unavailable!

What’s with the factors of 1024?

I’ll go out further on that limb and say there is NO QA there. If there was this disgusting online gambling would never have even been seen ingame.

As for any sort of quality standards, I’m trying to be serious here so please stop with the jokes thanks :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Options for how many tickets your raffle has: 8, 16, 48, 512. It’s like they were too lazy to convert out of binary factors of 1024 and just use 10, 100, 1000, 10000.

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why would they convert to lower value ? What’s the point ?
in the db if you have 16 tickets, each has an internal index of 4 bits therefore you can add them to their own DB with optimized manipulation. Having 15 tickets instead of 16 would just waste data because it needs to take the same space in the db.

Oh wow I sold something!
That’s the third thing I sold!

The UI is super stupid!
I don’t even get to see the total amount I got.
It only shows me the prices of the HyperCore.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/e91jy8/anyone_else_watching_this_continue_and_not_caring/

I legit have fears over the fact this made it into the game. Two of my mates have now stopped playing, because they both have a gambling problem which ruined them (poker). One of them immediately saw the fun in this thing, and has spend just as much as OP have. I had to grab him and tell him to stop already, since his ■■■■■■■ problem was coming back, with him buying plex to sell for isk.

This is really, really scummy.

This is what people were saying will happen.

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Because all of the rest of the math is decimal. So now, in this system where everything’s working in 10s, where everyone’s brain is already trained to 10s, you’re multiplying and dividing by 8, 16, 48, 512. With a 5% tax. So 0.05 * [number divisible by 512], which produces more rounding as the math goes past 3 decimal places…

Honestly, it’s a lot of extra moving parts because they didn’t make the system neaten up its numbers at the start.

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Small suggestion: Make the HyperNet link pink. It makes it stand out of all the other links and you cannot mistake it for a contract or a linked entity/name/system/etc.

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Is there a time limit to claim winning hypernet offers? I imagine some may overlook the button and it’ll just sit there.

Currently not a way to scroll back through only the raffles you won.

HyperNet Relay

Feature request:

  • An option to open/check all finished raffles in the ‘History’ tab.
    At the moment you have to open them 1 by 1, and hope you find the 1 raffle you won. This is especially time consuming when you have 50+ raffles waiting to be checked :slight_smile:

Other then that request I would like to say that I love the new wallet ui and the HyperNet Relay :slight_smile:
Keep up the awesome work CCP :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

BPCs in hypernet relay are showing BPO estimated prices. Fine if you want to encourage scams, but would prefer they’re treated as different commodities

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WALLET FEEDBACK : I have a rather long list of market transactions for the thing to load and sometimes it’s important to me to skim through my list for certain things (maybe I’m looking for things like client names or just outstanding large transactions) … so I have TWO little requests on this

  1. While the window is taking a while (much longer than before)(last time I stopped counting after 30 seconds) to load my transaction list, I would appreciate some sort of loading text or indicator instead of the default “No transactions found” … because being a market player, seeing “No transactions found” and having no load-time indication makes me feel like this function of the game is outright broken. Previously, I think the list area went blank which - being more than nothing - was an indicator that the system was busy fetching my requested data. I would like to have this sort of minor feature back in my wallet system.

  2. I would like to have some options for how many transactions-per-page load into immediate view, because when I need to skim my transactions it’s much faster and easier being able to click a stationary button instead of having to scroll every page and then have to find and click that little button again. I know the wallet before gave this option, and I liked it. I would like to have this sort of minor feature back in my wallet system.

PS: Also, having those previous/next-page buttons at the bottom of the window is a bit counter-intuitive (at least for me) when all the other controls are in the upper areas of the window

PS2: ALSO, the transaction list seems to keep defaulting to Master Wallet. Can we maybe have it stop doing that, please?

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