For those who accuse CCP of Making Eve Online 'Pay to Win'

Now you’re just playing…

Seems to me you can’t stand the fact that there are people that would sub anyway even WITHOUT the learning boost…

I mean what are you blaming me for?

Subbing?

Using the advantage?

What should i do? become alpha? would that please you?

I don’t get the meaning of your accuse…

Let me put it as simply as I can.

You no want 2x training.

But you use 2x training.

Therefore;

You don’t really want it removed, you are just stirring.

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Really?

I said multiple times now i wouldn’t mind if it would be gone.

But as long as it live i have NO OTHER CHOICE than to have it.

You cannot turn it off so again…WHAT IS YOUR ACCUSE?

Surely i’m using it because there is no other way…

Of course you do.

Now, you can have the last word, so make it a good one, pls.

How in your world should i not using it if you cannot turn it off?

Please enlighten me…

Yes you can, stop paying a sub and the “2x bonus” is turned off.

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-sigh-

This is getting stupid…

It’s over now…

How is stating the obvious stupid?

He’s just lucky he’s noob-shielding in Uitra in a retriever right now.

I mean, an Alpha in a Venture would make more than that situation is capable of making nearly anywhere else in the universe.

Yeah…nice method to prove your point…

This is one of the reasons there cannot be too less casual in this game…

I’m not sure what this means, in fact I’m not sure that you know what it means either.

Because you’d have more noobs to hide behind?

I once heard a story about a guy,
A guy that thought he could pay to win in EvE.
He spent $10,000 +(in US equivalent)
Undocked his prize ship fully purple to run missions on its maiden voyage.
30 minutes later a gang of 2 million ISK cats(or something similiar) probed him down and popped his multi-billion not so smart ass.

His reaction was to whine and cry about how that was not fair and in WoW such things were impossible.
Then he threatened to sue the players.
Then he threatened to sue CCP
Then we never heard of him anymore…

EvE is not P2W, cause Darwinism will always take you to the cleaners if you believe that.

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Reminded me of a song

Once there was a man,
Who had a little too much,
Time on his hands,
He never stopped to think,
That he was getting older.
When his night came to an end,
He tried to grasp for his last friend,
And pretend,
That he could wish himself health,
On a four-leaf clover.

He said is this the Return to Oz?
The grass is dead
The gold is brown
And the sky has claws.
there’s a wind-up man
Walking round and round.
What once was Emerald City’s
Now a Crystal Town

https://imperium.news/alod-go-back-wow/ is a good example of people thinking that money can purchase a win condition in Eve.

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That sounds very much like the story i heard,
$1300 in plex is a lot less than what i heard orignally.

There is no “2x bonus”. This is simple CCP’s marketing ■■■■■■■■ made up to not offend Alphas too much.

In reality Omegas have 1x and Alphas have 0.5.

For newcomers: when CCP implemented Alphas and Omegas they gave Omegas standard training speed and gave Alphas half of it.

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We already tried to tell Duro that, but he wasn’t interested.

Too busy afking in a noob system.

True dat.

But…

This is Duro we’re dealing with here.

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duro

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