Game is dying fast

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Well I was trying to do a few number things, but was interrupted too many times, so not much context but a few numbers and graphs, I found a few of them interesting and do not want to delete them.

CCP gave numbers saying we have 40% of players being new yearly, now we all know CCP statistics, but the contest this was given, thinking it is problematic high and wishing to improve retention, they seem motivated to actually get an accurate number. I would believe them in we have many new players, and I will agree with others (I forget which thread here on forums somewhere) saying new players, especially ones that do not stay very long, are likely to only have 1 account. So many players only have 1 account. Suggesting 40% only has 1 account, seems a high percentage to me, but maybe it could actually be true.

Found the picture from 2022:

2.6 accounts on average according to CCP. Now can believe that or not, I will just go with around there.

These two numbers combined then puts long term players at 3.7 accounts on average. (which makes the 40% only having 1 account above, sound much more likely to me than it first did, once start multiboxing Eve accounts multiply fast, it is not hard to find people with way more than 4 accounts, who need to be “pulled down” if the average of the long term player is only 3.7 / all players only 2.6).

Player count actually stabilizing?

Combining these two graphs, suggest the last 2 years have been very good for Eve - relatively to the recent past that is.

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Everyone will have to decide on jestertrek’s credibility self, I dont know them and didn’t take time to research anything. I just found it interesting how the trend from first graph is a clear drop, combined with how the second graph show 2025 near match with 2024, after 2023 ended with a climb up, suggesting actual stabilization in accounts / player activity.

Stumbled over this scrolling down the thread a little " the guy with 261 accounts", no idea if its true, obviously referencing something but no source. If true this one guy will need about 162 players with just 1 account to “pull him down” to a 2.6 average.

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Without going into much detail on that, one of our kill mails show we were at least 70. However there was some events, if you want to count that (it has some FNI kills at least) as 40, I know what you talk about.

EDIT Whoops and alt counts, no idea on that one, but also wouldn’t want to tell too specific. But alts don’t have to be in same fleet either way. It is no secret some rat while PvPing on main in less busy fleets fx.

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In the “extensive” knowledge you’ve gained in a whopping two years and eight months?

giphy

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Man you wouldn’t have made it in pre-nerfed EVE. All kinds of scams and griefing and there were no babysitters to help you.

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Lol…vastly more than in your own 33 days…huh.

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If you mean 22 years, then, yes.

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A lot of people pretend to have played the game for a long time, but if you look at their killboard you can see whether they ever played at all.

Some people are all talk!

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Bah…nobody with a proud 22 years would be hiding behind a 33 day old noob alt.

It’s a pretty consistent thing here…that the people who whine loudest about PvP post on accounts that have zero activity in 7 years, or are ‘noobs’, or posting on one of 100 throw away alts. It’s the biggest sign that such people are not really interested in an honest discussion.

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Ah yes, the classic dodge, ignore the argument, cry “alt!” Newsflash: valid points don’t require a vintage killboard. If the best you’ve got is “you’re a noob,” you’ve already lost the debate.

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I have to admit, I don’t know if I get more entertainment from being called a ganker or reading @Swing_Vote1 posts! :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

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You don’t even have valid points. Just another ‘save the noobs’ pretend white knight masquerading their own narcissism in which, as Nabi puts it…

’ you are the one who is so self-important and self-centered that you want the entire spirit and mechanics of a whole video game to be changed to suit your preferences '.

I think most here see through the facade.

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It’s actually the same one. There isn’t a community of ‘antigankers’ who agree with any of this nonsense. Notice how nobody with an active killboard agrees with him? It’s just one individual rolling new alts and endlessly spamming the forum with tiresome cliches. The post you are responding to was actually written by ChatGPT, because the lazy pleb isn’t even writing his own diatribes. Unfortunately, on his own, he just isn’t intelligent to use big words like “valid” and “vintage”.

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Show me on the graph where EVE is dying fast.

(Timeframe was chosen as post Scarcity and the start of CCP’s current development philosophy.)

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Looks great to me!

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Let me give you a piece of advice for all MMOs: when you’re not happy, just leave. Uninstall the game. No need to come to the official forum just to spit venom.

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They are quite entertaining , a yappy little chihuahua.

Clearly he is suffering from patellar luxation and has an anorectal abscess

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You’re the one who brought character age into the discussion.

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