THIS IS WHY HACS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE
T2 is a niche ship. You add awesome takle to a HAC you get a fantasy OP ship that you can suprise sex everybody with. It would break the game and upset the balance too much.
You are correct. I wouldnât add tackle to it. But I would do something else, for example up its buffer tank HP a bit, not too much, just a little, then give it some long range penalties then up the close range âin yo faceâ damage. Or something along those lines. This is just a random thought, obviously it would need to be thoroughly thought out and numbers would need to be worked on then down line adjusted based on data.
There are many things that can be done. Or the low DPS HACs, how about give them a bonus to ADC duration ? Another thing, on some of them but not all, you could dump the MWD sig bonus and replace it with AB speed bonus, kinda like the Phantasm but just not as much maybe 5-7.5% per skill level range. Or how about just slightly reduce PWG / CPU requirements for fitting short range turrets instead of the MWD sig reduction ? Wouldnât that be more âassaultyâ ?
There are many, many things that could be done. You could even look at each faction and leave whichever is the more popular HAC alone and make some of these changes to the other one.
sorry youre making that up
theyre both commiting assault
and assault doesnt have to mean physical violence especially when were talking about military hardware
Just an aside really - in UK law âAssaultâ is making a threat of violence, actually attacking someone is âBatteryâ.
hahahahaha, ffs go play the game.
I do, just thought someone might find it interesting.
like paint drying. 
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Its not talking about the legal deffinition of assult.
The word insane has 0 meaning in the world of psychology but it is a legal term used most often in the courtroom.
In the context of the game assult pertains to a ship or group of ships attacking with intent to destroy a ship or group of ships. Such as found with military units assulting a building terrorists are hiding in/using as a base.
Iâll have you know watching paint dry is the only way I can survive hours of AFK miningâŚ
Itâs only an assault ship if it has a black skin on it. 
Slap wood on the stock instead of anodized black metal and the Liberals will only hate it as much as any other pvp ship. But the moment you paint it black, it becomes an assault ship.
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Muninn lost its launcher high, but meh, its supposed to be a gunship and not an explorer either, anyways. Now it competes with Cynabal a bit better. Oddly, Minmatar doesnt have a missile T2, but thats cos Minnie always gets the short stick 
What HAC should mean, doesnt matter.
CCP slaps arbitrary names on ship classes,
CCP also balances ship of a type internally, so some T2s are better for some specific forms of tasks, than others.
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Why is there such a debate over semantics? Assault ships in EVE are clearly intended to be designated front-line combat units with a focus on tanking and damage dealing specifically, hence the bonuses to tanking and damage output that they get as opposed to bonuses to webbing and scramming and ewar and such.
While weâre at it, THE definition of assault is âto perform a physical attackâ. Whether or not you consider a web or scram to be âphysicalâ is beside the point. I can assault you in an Imicus with a civ blaster on it if I want, the act of assaulting can be performed by any ship. But so can the act of mining, tackle, etc, itâs just some ships are better at those things than others, so they are appropriately designated according to whatever task they are best suited to. For assault ships, itâs direct toe-to-toe combat. It really is that simple.
As for rebalancing HACs, I donât see the need. They all have strengths and weaknesses unique to the race and ship itself. Some are better in fleets, others are better in small gangs/solo. The âmetaâ depends on the circumstances.
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so if a hac is a pointing ship that grabs tackle for a gang then it still follows your made up definition
an assault squad can raid a terrorist hq without wounding or killing a single person
because semantics are pedantic
This.
Regardless of what people think HACâs âshould beâ⌠they are in a state where they fill certain roles well but are not over powered. Theyâre a useful and balanced ship. Why mess with something in a good place?
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what are they useful for
i mean what roles do they excel at which other ships cant do
Because the semantic is the basic of a discussion.
How can we discuss the color of a pink cat if we donât agree what a cat is ?
Context is everything. Some will think his color his fluffy, other rather itâs purry.
I keep this bookmarked in case someone asks stupid questions like that. Youâre welcome.
well most people will know that a cat is either a wild or domestic animal with feline characteristics
but pendantic people will say well foxes are wild animals with feline characteristics so are you saying foxes are cats
and then get into a pointless argument about whether a fox is a cat while nitpicking details when the topic is just about a pink fox or a cat and it doesnt matter either way
all that matters is its a pink animal