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No nonif you want to mine 20mil/hour you need to have a supercap fleet on standby according to people supporting this.
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pvp was there all along, you didnât have to leave.
What youâre subbing for is risk-free ganktarding which is not pvp, chicken.
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Zkill only shows lossmails. Itâs only functional uses are showing other people kills/loss mails and looking at kills/loss mails. Itâs not a mythical intel tool like you incorrectly think it is.
Thatâs the literal opposite of dealing with problems. Thatâs ignoring them til they hopefully go away.
Nope. Cause I understand that itâs easy to coordinate and kill cloakies. Cause thatâs what we do in wormholes. You just suck.
Ha. Oh yea looting the wrecks of cheap barges and ratting ships is SOOOOO profitable.
Really? Iâd think only having a dozen or so of my mining ships get popped while mining over my many years of play is quite impressive.
Holy â â â â thatâs fantastic. What show or movie is that from?
Edit: ah. Title was cut off in the small forum window.
Mad?
Iâm subbing for content.
Iâm creating content.
How is the forum treating you?
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You are subbing because it became easier for you. When it gets hard again you will quit taking your âcontentâ with you.
You quit once because it was too hard without free handouts. Youâll do it again when it goes there again
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I mean, isnât that what you guys are doing? It becoming slightly more difficult for you, thus your response is to quit.
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OR, and stay with me now, they are resubbing because itâs not boringly easy anymore and the thrill of overcoming a challenge is what many people enjoy in solo and small gang pvp.
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ganktarding is not generating any content - risk-averse chicken ganktards only jump when itâs 100% safe to do so. And you even only subbed when it became 100% safe to do so. You blame krabs for not engaging when they canât win, and you yourself do 1000 times that, making you worse than a krab at generating content.
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Considering all the people who literally only sub because they have to have CCP nerfing the entire other side of gameplay to let them win? No.
PvP is you trying to kill another humans ship, the other human doesnât want to do that so they do things to prevent it
people literally quit over that. And only came back when the game developers handed a gigantic one sided change to make it easier for them to get free kills
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Yeah, you know, like you werenât when you fled Dreddit during the Fountain War, only to rejoin later when it was safe again.
That depends entirely on what means I had to replace them with, now wouldnât it? Ratting and mining in frigates, itâd take a lot longer than if I were doing it with a supercarrier or Rorqual.
You get the rest of EVE organized, weâll find out. 
Remember, last time, NC/PL had a bigger supercap force on their own. And yes, the supers got evacuated, just like the statement youâre replying to says they should have. It wasnât worth risking losing them.
Just like it wasnât worth NC/PL risking theirs last month when we put a thousand titans on their doorstep. Or last year, when the X-47 timers were about as close to an even supercapital fight as youâre ever going to see in EVE.
But actually committing to those was âjust all talkâ, right?
Except they will work. No local goes both ways. The hunters cant probe and with no local that means force recons can sit just off grid and cloakies can sit on grid. They also have a harder time spotting bait without extra legwork on top of having a much harder time keeping track of defense fleets. Your just too aggressively dumb to listen me tell you all the effective ways to deal with them.
Going to have to correct you, but you know Local was used by both sides right? This change hit both sides equally, forcing the hunter to actually check belts, to launch probes, and so forth and so forth to find youâŚ
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Canât launch probes or you spook your prey.
Be careful now, using that sort of common-sense logic might be beyond the abilities of those afflicted by late-stage Spod-Brain.
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Ok, tell me. You have 3 recons sitting cloaked as a super effective way to deal with anything. Actually, 4, but one is asleep after 5 hours of incredibly fun gameplay of watching a barge.
cyno lights up, 10-150 bombers bombers appear, your barge is instapopped, your recons are still cloaked.
Answer seriously for once: How would you deal with it?
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This change does not hit, it is a teeter-totter, it lands one side into the mud and propels the other into risk-free skill-free effort-free kills.
And then one side falls, wonder what happens to the otherâŚ
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You accept that by mining in 0.0 there are threats and risks the the mining barge youâre flying. Knowing your options are to find a way to defend yourself by having a fleet, accepting an amount of loss or going back to high sec where you can see the ganks coming.
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when the logistical of the otherside surpasses 15 bombers, the other side has declared unofficial war upon you good sir. I suggest you mount a defense and proactively return fire.
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