Well, if the toon is Caldari, just use missles or drones if you are Gallente. Imo only Minmatar have a little rough start, but thats me and i don’t like them.
Well we don’t like you either 
The OP is gallente but has said that drones are too fiddly because they get aggro from rats in missions.
vOv
Thats part of the game. OP should learn how aggro works. Most times its only Elite npcs that aggro them or if you use bigger drones for smaller ships.
But if the complaines start at L2 missions and HS anos what do we get when OP hits L3s? That she needs a BS for them? Well.. you can fly them with cruisers also (doing an Angel Extravaganza atm with a cruiser.. most time its waiting for them coing in weapon range of 59 km)
I don’t see any way to interpret the OP’s behavior other than “trolling”. It doesn’t matter what facts, fits, or advice anyone provides or how thoroughly the OP’s ■■■■■■■■ is debunked. There will always be some rationale for why the solution doesn’t solve their problem, and when they can’t muster that, they’ll just repeat themselves.
Pfft, look at Mr. Moneybags and his T2 heat sinks over here! How is a regular old player, not some extreme min-maxer, ever supposed to afford THAT? OP is just trying to play like a normal player who does normal things, like never training skills or fitting the correct modules to their ship.
It’s literally unbelievable that anyone could possibly be that stupid. It’s trolling.
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If you think that’s gonna happen you’re very naive.
For every person who wants what you want there is at least 1 who wants the opposite of what you want. This isn’t the way to make decisions about their game, even if FC was open to player feedback like that.
You are right. Didn’t checked the fitting for high end modules 
and on top of it it costs about 12 million isk. Unaffordable for players like the op.
First of all burner are no regular lvl 4, second of all you can not compare sheer lucky drops(happens but f.e. zor’s implant only 1/20 at most) of any kind with normal mission behaviour and put them into your average number claiming ‘this is the new average now, because this happened to me’.
REGULAR lvl 4 pay -as i said- 20 million looted and salvaged and 10 million blitzed(bounty and mission reward).
You are comparing apples and pears here…
I admit that you are right about lp…the money earned here belong into the average, but this is all i have to admit here.
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@ ISD_Drew (no ping hopefully, for now)
can devs see this post in General Discussion? it has some feedback from me about the game that i think the devs should look at, but i do not know if the devs actually read General Discussion. Maybe switch it to that other thread called Player Features And Ideas?
To actually tag the name, remove the space between the @ and the name, definitely include _ between first, mid and last names when appropriate …
Devs can see it, as this is a public forum.
Will they see it? Not sure, they rarely respond here so it’s hard to tell how many of them do read these forums if they read it at all.
What is the feedback message you wish them to know? That the newbie EVE experience is challenging for stubborn players who refuse to take advice?
I suspect this may not be entirely new information for them, or for anyone.
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Or refuses to train skills in general
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arthur can speak on experience on this, an even easier way to make big isk, which includes TRAINING skills… is to get paid to run the missions for other people 
OP, to get any progress you have to train skills, there’s no way around that. whether it be the social skills, that increase how much SP you gain, or how much you get from each mission, or the skills actually needed to fly the damn ships.
you cannot play this game and expect to make isk without training the skills necessary to fly, and it doesn’t take very long to train them…
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| Stasis Webifier I | Stasis Web | Medium Slot | 1 |
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| Small EM Shield Reinforcer II | Rig Shield | Rig Slot | 1 |
| Small Core Defense Field Extender II | Rig Shield | Rig Slot | 1 |
| Small Capacitor Control Circuit II | Rig Core | Rig Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Light Missile Launcher I | Missile Launcher Light | High Slot | 1 |
| Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger | Capacitor Recharger | Medium Slot | 1 |
| EM Shield Amplifier II | Shield Resistance Amplifier | Medium Slot | 1 |
| Damage Control II | Damage Control | Low Slot | 1 |
| Ballistic Control System II | Ballistic Control System | Low Slot | 1 |
| 1MN Afterburner I | Propulsion Module | Medium Slot | 1 |
This is on a Corax. I just ran a L2 Security mission. Had zero problems with it. In fact a little scratched paint. It was a good run. Is the build optimal. No, far from it. I did this fit over a year ago. When I was far poorer than I am now. Still it is still a good fit for what I need.
Now I know you are here to moan and complain and not listen to any advice from anyone. Still I thought I would at least demonstrate that even on a T1 destroyer (corax). You can have a fit that is well with in any budget. One that can stand up to a L2 security mission.
My general practice is not to fit a ship with the most expensive modules. But with modules that can do the job needed and fit my budget at the same time.
If you are not willing to skill into the needed social or rigs. Whether alpha or not. Then there is little I can do. I can however be willing to watch you become a pretty fireball in the sky. I do love fireworks. Especially from players that refuse to do the common sense things. Instead become chum in the water for the sharks.
Fly safe pilot o7 or be chum.
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