Hey guys,
i am ready to hop in a Mach now (Both BS Skills to V + Large projectile Turret V).
What would you recommend for smooth Level 4 runs (complete, not blitzing specifially)?
Costs should not exceed 1.3b.
Thanks o/
Rattlesnake. Machariels used for blitzing, their auto cannons losing way to much dps with range to be as effective as Rattlesnake with sentry drones.
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I’ll fit Artys then! (The rattler is not an option, don’t like missiles and drones too much)
Do you have a fit for this you could share? I haven’t seen one just yet that I like for Lvl4s.
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mach is fine but you overtarained
you only need level 4min bs and 4 gal bs
this one omni tanks everything except em rats such as sansha or blood
swithch the harderner to em if you wanna fight those
you wont need to in osmon
[Machariel, Shield AB]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
100MN Afterburner II
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, EMP L
[empty high slot]
Large Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x10
Acolyte II x5
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replace drones as you choose you prbably want some hammerheads
This fit is designed as a blitz fit, but works pretty much fine for full clears too. Use the MWD and MJD to control range and apply DPS, or kite away from high dps enemies. Could easily swap the rigs for more tank, projection, or whatever stat you want.
Arty fits work, but lose a ton of dps. My arty fit is pretty similar but with a light shield tank. It can hit from far enough away it can avoid most damage. I only use it for a few missions.
Rattler puts up huge dps numbers, but loses a lot of that damage in practice. also it’s super freaking slow, I really don’t like flying them. Probably a perfect structure basher but vs many small enemies like in missions, not a fan.
[Machariel, Mwd 800s armor warp speed]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Dark Blood Large Armor Repairer
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Auto Targeting System II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Warrior II x5
Garde II x4
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Use faction ammo, and don’t link your turrets. The cycle time on artillery sucks, but 1400s can one/two shell rat cruisers, and volley most rat BCs. They also have abysmal tracking, so you will want to be 45-50 km off of your closest target and be stationary or headed away from the group of rats that have targeted you; your guns won’t hit a webbed, orbiting frigate, so carry light drones.
Managing artillery is a lot like managing cruise missiles with instant damage.
I’ll also point out that with the exception of gurristas, most rat battleships can’t reliably hit past 40 km or so, even if you are stationary. At ranges good for artillery use, you won’t be taking much damage.
Even with rapid heavy missile launchers? 
[Machariel, Blitz Machariel]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Shadow Serpentis 500MN Microwarpdrive
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Hail L
Small Tractor Beam II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Berserker II x4
Warrior II x5
Note, that at 50 km range you will be lucky appling more than 600 DPS without drones. Which is pretty low even comparing with what can sentry drones Dominix apply from 100+ km (about 700 instant DPS). The fact, that you will be able to complete any L4 with that fit does not mean you should. Because of ISK/hour efficiency. Cap booster charges will spam your cargohold and make the usage of the chip for whole room clear even worse…
[Dominix, L4 4 guns]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Drone Damage Amplifier II
IFFA Compact Damage Control
Shadow Serpentis Large Armor Repairer
Large Micro Jump Drive
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Script
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Microwave L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor II
Large Ionic Field Projector I
Large Drone Scope Chip II
Warden II x5 <- pick the right one according to info from eve-survival
Curator II x5
Bouncer II x5
Garde II x5
Rattlesnake can be fitted for damage application (rapid havy missile launchers) or range tank from 150 km with cruise missiles (less DPS, but also less micromanagement).
[Rattlesnake, L4 whole room clean up]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Large Micro Jump Drive
Sentient Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Script
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Warden II x2
Curator II x2
[Rattlesnake, rapid heavy T2]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Large Micro Jump Drive
Sentient Sensor Booster
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Drone Scope Chip II
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Warden II x2
Ogre II x2
Or HTFU and just get your Vargur, cause maradeurs are meant by CCP as the mission runners tool.
Rattler with RHML has better application, but long reload times, can have range issues looks like 47-63km with fury and faction respectively, and the RoF is so high it is easy to waste volleys.
Just a short note re: RHML Rattlesnake setups. You will often lose more DPS to lost volleys so a third ballistic control is often counterproductive (a slower rate of fire is actually more beneficial here and you would probably gain more from a missile guidance enhancer). A set of T2 hydraulic rigs is the best pairing as it boosts missile velocity and range. I would also use the mid slots to augment drones instead of missiles.
You are correct with waste volleys. No AFK ratting 
Half your damage comes from drones, so after couple of volleys you leave the target on your drones and start shooting other NPC. Faction missiles have about 110 km range. Wardens have over 80 km optimal and almost 100 km control range. If you have perfect missile skills you can exchange one missile guidance computer to omnidirectional tracking link and get your wardens optimal almost at drone control range (over 98 km).
Yes, it takes time to get experience how to not lose your volleys On the other hand you can apply up to 1400 DPS cold from LMJD 100 km range (T2 drone rigs) with reasonable application. With Machariel you will hardly get to half of that due to large guns shooting at all kind of targets within falloff (not optimal).
Sentry drones have falloff, too. Not too mention that you’re looking at EM (Curator) and kinetic (Warden) locks - so even with full skills, damage modifiers and tracking you’re only looking at about 650-700 DPS from drones.
You get more damage with cruise missiles, but even with rigs, implants and missile enhancers you lose most of the DPS against anything smaller than battlecruisers. There’s also the kinetic and thermal lock, so it will excel against some NPC types and be less effective against others. You can opt for rapid launchers but again you lose out on lost volleys and reload times.
I did an extensive analysis of the Rattlesnake at one point in the past and the 1400 (or higher) DPS numbers usually work out to around 1100-1200 DPS once you factor everything in (and that’s with a lot of bling). This puts it on par with most other Pirate ships and slightly higher than Marauders.
In truth, I can usually run circles around any Rattlesnake with my Kronos because I can MJD to point-blank range and apply the full 1300-1700 DPS against anything (grapplers are awesome). It’s immune to EW and the 48km tractor range and cargo space allows me to easily loot and salvage key missions.
I can’t touch Machariels for blitzing but for full clears (and especially salvaging) Marauders are hard to beat.
Thanks for all the fittings guys. i’ll give them a try and train into mauraders. Probably gonna take the Mach into incursions then as soon as have a Vargur.
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