New ORE ships comparison after first days of testing in HS

[Queotzcatl]

With the new Crit skills, the efficiency gets better on the new ships than Endurer and Prospect,

buth Consortium Pioneer and Venture +50% chance seems huge but in practice

you get from 1.3% of non-consortium ships vs a 1.8% crit increase chances.

It seems low but it’s like having a fourth Miner II in the End.

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Every ships has its own small advantage over another….

I see every single one as really good in their own–

… Covetor, Skiff, Mackinaw, Hulks, etc, will have a harder time with residue but well oiled op doesn’t seem to have taken a big hit… on the contrary…

Prospect gets 200msq x 15s and 12.5K hold. Only 1.2-3 crit. Time to fill up 15 min… so it’s slower than the Pioneer T1 (and CI) but not that much, considering it has a bigger hold to fill…

Endurance 150msq x 15s and 19.5K hold. Time to fill up 30 min… Nice for NullSec, bigger hold.

Venture CI gets 1.8 crits so it will be faster to fill up and+2 Warp strenght. Ideal for Blitzes.

Pioneer gets 150msq x 15s and 8k hold with more crits than other Venture variants. 15 mins avrg.

Pioneer CI gets 150msq x15s, 10K hold and 1.8% crits… around 13 min to get a full hold. (faster).

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Also, Lv5 Destroyer is 7days, Expedition frigs to Lv5 is 15 days training.

And the 2 new Mining skills are making mining crits faster at lv4 already and they are only 2 days training to Lv4. Lv5 will be 2 weeks at a minimum.

I noticed with the CI ships and these skills they get a LOT faster.

Prospect, Endurance, and Venture CI… might not be as good as these new Destroyer all at Lv5…

But they have other strenghts.

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Eve - New Pioneer Mining Destroyer: A better Venture?

[Queotzcatl]

Venture CI updated fit: 12min for full 6.250 msq hold; in line with the faster timing of the Pioneer CI…
Notice I already have Mining frig to Lv5, so it’s a 25% base yield increase already at its maximum,
whilst the Pioneer and the Pioneer CI still have 20% Skills increase left.

This means that even the base T1 Pioneer will outperform the Venture CI in yield but not
that much in speed… the Venture CI might be faster to fill up completely.

Whilst T2 venture variants seems both to be only slightly better than the CI Venture.
Notice the 1.94% Crits chance. That is equal to almost a third turret, which makes it possible to get under 10mins for a full cargo, which is faster than the T1 Pioneer.