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Well water don’t flow everywhere lol. Dams also cause their own problems.

Sun don’t always shine…

Wind don’t always blow…

Good ole nuclear + a reliable energy storage system will save the day. And they got tons of cool techs like those mini plants and ones even powered by salt. I would check it out. Pretty cool stuff.

So what do you propose we gap the bridge? The case for dams is pretty weak man.

  • Germany closed their nuke plants and went to coal lol.
  • France has their nuke plants but they are rapidly aging.
  • Solar panels only last 20 years and don’t work everywhere… (Look at Texas where everything froze during that one winter :joy:)
  • US uses mainly gas powerplants for everything.

People (older ones) still are scared of nuclear accidents and it’s a real shame. Our military ships are powered by nuclear but noone is protesting that? Wonder why the US has nuclear powered subs vs just a normal diesel one or gas? I think there is a pattern here… with nuclear power :thinking: Just food for thought. What do I know? :joy:

Perhaps when the newer generation eventually holds office in 30 years+ things might change.

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True.

Indeed. I shouldn’t have posted in this thread if I have no clue how things work.
Rather, I should go take an appointment with a psychiatrist because I’m a climate crazy.
@DrysonBennington It looks like all your posts in this thread were right on.
I apologize for doubting you.

Doesn’t it? I could’ve swore it did.
Shows you how much I know.
Maybe I should not post in forums before I get my high school diploma.

You can post in Players Fiction section, that way you can write all sorts of nonsense.

Bad idea. A shrink would give you medication that only make you even crazier.

Not necessarily. It’s just that your posts in this thread were incorrect. Eventually you realized that because you deleted them.

University degree or college diploma at least. Don’t show your face in this forum until you get a proper education.

We still have room to improve the Earth’s electromagnetic field harvesting technologies. Max Loughan invented such a device some years ago.

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We are going to take your car away and your children WILL eat the bugs

That isn’t a bad idea at all. I wanted to do that from the start. Had I known how brutal some of the members are here I would’ve stuck to that plan. Now I know.
So thanks for the suggestion.

Why don’t you like nuclear and other reliable sources of energy production?

You seriously afraid there might be an accident? In the era of lean manufacturing, workers rights, and so much more the chances of an accident these days are near non existent due to incompetent leadership.

I just want to have a reasonable chat. What am I missing about nuclear? What do you know that I don’t that makes nuclear unacceptable vs other energy sources that produce alot less energy.

It’s like people saw the title and ignored the content in this thread especially what lo said in post 4

With the current nuclear power plant technology and the known and estimated Uranium that can be digged up there is fuel left for 110 years at the current rate of consumption.

It just doesn’t scale and has become one of the most expensice sources of electricity.

Meanwhile in 2023 alone there was the same output (theoretical peak) of solar newly installed than what all nuclear reactors togehter can produce. Solar has seen now exponential growth for the last 40 years, doubling every two years.

Now, I don’t say you should not be able to build new nuclear reactors, but in my opinion it is economically completely unsound to do so and the if people want to bet on it anyway should do that with their own and not with public money.

If solar continues like this, it will completely swamp the market with cheap abundant but highly variable energy.

The intelligent thing to do would be to invest as much as possible in storage no matter how inefficient it is. If it continues on this trajectory, the efficiency will simply not matter much.

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Oh yah no doubt about that. I wish it was cheaper. France is having that exact problem they got tons of plants but are struggling to maintain them. So much red tape around traditional nuclear.

Now if I was not lazy id dig up some articles on those new nuclear technologies to bolster my point and say that red tape is hindering more energy generation solutions that are near carbon neutral for the value they provide.

Yup that’s what “they” (elected leaders) wanna push. Maybe in 10-20 more years every house will have a solar panel(s) on it ideally charging their EV or something. I don’t oppose that also.

:100: :100: :100: I hope we get decent batteries. The lithium stuff we got now is old.

You could’ve read the thread before she deleted all her posts.

She did mention nuclear energy.

You did too.

But no matter. I still think we should go back to horse&buggies.

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Global warming is a myth /thread

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Oh yeah, the reason why it is so expensive is in big part because of the red tape, this is absolutely true. But that is unlikely to change.

I don’t think politics influence this in any significant way actually. What happens with solar is a technology thing and it is happening on a global scale. It doesn’t matter if you or your government are pro solar, it will happen anyway no matter what.

If the exponential trajectory stays the same, then in 6-8 years we will globally produce more electricity with solar (peak) than we actually need. If it plateaus it will obviously take longer. But it will happen faster than people expect, no one seems to be seeing this coming.

Obviously this will still not replace conventional power plants. My own pet theory is that the companies that will actually compete and replace conventional power plants are those who build huge storage facilities who suck up the surplus during the day and sell it during the night.

But essentially that is why I think new nuclear reactors are a waste of money. By the time they will be ready, the wont have a business model that works and no reason to exist anymore.

I don’t think we even need new storage technology for solar to work. If you have abundant overproduction over the day, even inefficient storage will do.

Anyway, I think in a couple years no one will talk about energy problems anymore.

It isn’t. But it’s fundamentally an energy problem and if we have enough energy we can easily solve that too.

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Every climate scare made as far back as I could find, that being 1895, has been wrong. Every. Single. One. It doesn’t take a sane, rational person over a century to figure out those people are full of it, and likely have an agenda driving their constant attempts to decieve you. Personally, I don’t care what their agenda is, because no one who constantly lies to me has my best interests in mind.

As for calling you a climate crazy, all the other words I could use to describe someone who ignores all facts that they’re being led by the nose would get me banned from the forums, because none of them are good.

Ah yes, the single most environmentally impacting methods of energy generation. Such a wonderful method that the Colorado River in the Western US doesn’t reach the ocean anymore. Colorado has so many “water control projects” that the only water that leaves the state is what the state is contractually obligated to release to other states. In the case of the Colorado River, it doesn’t have any other sources, so there isn’t enough water to reach the ocean anymore.

That’s the wonder of building dams.

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Horse-drawn carriages for a clean environment.

Remember, cows fart, so you don’t get any livestock

It leads to the topic of energy generation :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Some people really got bent out of shape from this topic jeez…

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Pretty sure what you looked at is a summary of mainstream media headlines, handpicked to specifically convey that point to you. You think that is a good way to understand a topic as complex as climate change?

Show me a thread in Communications where people don’t get bent out of shape. This forum is like a war zone. There’s more PvP going on in the forum than in the game :rofl:

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Denying the evidence of my point doesn’t make it invalid. What, did you want me to post a list of articles not related to climate scares that didn’t come true? How is that relevant to the discussion? Do please tell me what other type of articles I should have posted there? Because articles of climate scares coming true don’t exist, it’s never happened.

As to understanding climate change, first you need to actually settle on a definition of WTF you’re actually talking about. In just my lifetime it’s been global warming, then global cooling when the models for global warming didn’t pan out, then global warming again when the models for global cooling didn’t pan out, then just simply climate change when the new models for global warming also didn’t pan out, but they still need to keep the scam going. Like most late Gen-X/Elder Millennials, I too was indoctrinated into the cult. They crafted school curriculum to preach at us from the Altar of Education to be afraid of Acid Rain, CFCs, and The Hole in The Ozone Layer. After too many inconsistencies of the dogma, I started to question. Like any cult, once you begin to question the beliefs, it all falls apart.

Does the global climate change? Absolutely, it does. The Sahara Desert used to be a lush place with the largest freshwater lake to have ever existed. That changed around the time the Pyramids in Egypt were built. You can find fossils of sea life in the mountains of Colorado, where it all used to be under a great inland sea, until the sea drained several million years ago. Certainly not evidence of the “Man Made Climate Change” theory, since it’s doubtful bronze age man had that much of an impact on the climate. I’m certain humanity does have an impact on the global environment, it’s not a danger to the planet. The planet will still be here long after Humany has exterminated itself. It will heal from us, and continue it’s orbit until the Sun turns it into a cinder.

Personal and local endeavors are the real solution, not the Just Stop Oil stupidity and Raging Greta theatrics. For example, I live on almost 100% solar energy. I do have some backup generation for cloudy days and refrigeration/cooking is done with propane. I do believe my footprint is as small as it can possibly be for a single human living a modern lifestyle, but at the same time most people would be utterly miserable with my living conditions, as happy as I am with them.

Less money into wind and large scale solar projects, those are garbage. More money needs to be invested into battery research, that way we can get off of a grid system for anything not major commercial or industrial. Getting every home and gas station onto it’s own private wind/solar power supply, with a grid only acting as a backup rather than primary, will greatly reduce the load on existing power plants. The trick to doing this is being able to effectively store the power produced by the small scale power generation currently available on the market to the average homeowner, and removing governmental red tape involved in installing and using same equipment.

What we certainly should not be doing is participating in any scam devised by the same hypocrite elites who flew 1,040 private jets to Davos this year to tell us we need to stop eating meat for the environment. (“Meat: The Future, A Roadmap for Delivering 21st-Century Protein” WEF White Paper)

So, yeah, I understand a whole lot about the complex topic of climate and climate scams. They’re not the same thing.

Also, this is Out of Pod Experience. As long as we remain civil we can get bent out of shape over almost any topic. :innocent: