Absolutely, which is why it’s not fair to say that we elect people to “govern” in this case.
I guess as long as the misuse of a word is popular enough, it’s fine to misuse it. If everyone else does it then it’s ok, right? Screw useless crap like history or etymology. Wait what’s doublespeak?
The problem is that this sort of shift of definitions through misuse isn’t an evolution of language but a devolution. People end up conflating things they dont understand and hey, new synonyms occur through said ignorance.
Honestly after I looked into all this stuff I ended up with newfound respect for the way France and Iceland treat their languages.
The primary benefit of language is that we can agree on what things mean. As we learn about more things, we come up with new words for them and language consequently develops with understanding. Synonyms through ignorance is not development through understanding.
Depends on your interpretation, although the CSM cannot decree, their fonction is close to one of the functions of The king of Belgium. “A facet of the King’s role consists of the work he does on a daily basis when mediating with ministers on behalf of private citizens who appeal to him to redress wrongs they have suffered at the hands of the political and administrative system.” source: The political role of the King | Belgium.be
Should I address Brisc Rubal now as “His Majesty, King Rubal”?
The alteration of meaning occurs because words are constantly used and what is intended by speakers is not exactly the same each time. If a different intention for a word is shared by the speech community and becomes established in usage then a semantic change has occurred.
Everyone is free to use language, in this case CCP, an Icelandic company posted about democracy, which in their definition is “Lýðræði er vítt hugtak yfir þær stjórnmálastefnur sem byggja á þátttöku almennings í ákvörðunum er hann varðar.”. So I think what we got here is a societal difference thus a different interpretation of definition.
What makes you think you’re electing an authority?
I’ve already laid out the argument against it, i.e. that the driving force behind that is mostly ignorance, i.e. misuse, or it’s any developments that warrant new or refined terminology (like “elementary particles” referring to the smallest ■■■■ we’ve gotten to). So far I’ve gotten these two arguments:
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Like, alright, fine. Languages change.
I’m not saying “languages don’t change”. I’m saying “the direction for the change isn’t always for the better”. The very example you use appeals to misuse.
Do you at least understand what harm I see in the shift of a term as central to the developed world as “democracy”? Democracy this, democracy that, fight for democracy, die for democracy, everyone has a right to democracy Which ■■■■■■■ democracy? The ideal one, the ones before, or the one we settled with currently? Anyone preaching it can just ride the connotation and when faced with scrutiny fall back on technicalities. Technically Russia is democratic.
I disagree with acknowledging and normalizing the shift from “power to the people” to “at least those who govern listen to the people with no obligation to act accordingly”, and I disagree with this kind of stuff happening being justified by people not thinking about how they talk and just blindly accept changes. I’ve seen enough definitions change to affect the perception of the norm which is why I per principle preach not going with the flow. This is for the record why I came to respect the idea of Académie Française (though theyre as infallable as I’m french, but I like the idea).
it’s not “misuse” to equate ‘democracy’ with ‘voting.’ It’s a fundamental aspect of modern democratic systems that they provide voting opportunities.
Anything else is being ridiculously pedantic. Everybody knows what CCP means when they talk about democracy and the CSM. Enjoy the login reward and don’t flip out.
It literally is, cause the end result is people thinking:
“democracy is a right” + “democracy is about voting, not forms of government” → “as long as I can vote, it’s democracy”
I mean, you call this entire cockslapalooza “democratic” when neither of us hold any semblance of power. I mean, I don’t expect anyone here to do so. We’re customers, not investors, shareholderes, or whatever. ZY123 is not a citizen with rights recognized by the UN or someshit.
The authority here is the ISD, this is not reddit, the agenda in there is CHAOS not the Null Sec agenda.
Every single medium intelligent person can deduce what CSM is about, it was already posted and I respect ZY123 for having the courage for being so explicit.
I don’t care, but I don’t need to open the game client and receive spit in my face, you guys have your Reddit and CCP ears, what do you need? Some small percentage of newbies throwing votes your way to help because your blocks are tied? Also good luck with that.
I’m not here to be pedantic, and it’s not my fault people are rioting, I found it funny the level of cynicism used by CCP, like we all are stupid and CSM is something new. Please, at least a little respect.
Do as you like, just don’t spit in my face, thank you. Again, the riot is CCP doing not mine, I don’t have that kind of powah.
For all that I care keep ruling the game in your NS space, crashing the server, renting space and all the other “good stuff”, including your very cool wars, just let me have my L4s and my forum fun.
The same definition you have in mind as when you call someone or something powerful, or when something holds or someone possesses or is granted power. You’re not granted power, nor do you have any more of it than anyone else with a voice; you’re granted the privilege of being heard. Access to decision makers is viewed as power by people who confuse those two.
The collective customer base has the power to vote with their wallet.
The collective playerbase has the privilege of voting with their accounts.
Do you understand the nuance between the two, i.e. the difference between power and and privilege, or would you like me to elaborate?
This has not been my experience, either as a CSM member or in real life. There is real power in positions with access and influence. With enough of both, you are able to enact change and direct outcomes, and billions of dollars are exchanged annually by people to get access to both.
No thanks, I’m pretty sure my lifetime of education and experience in this realm would not be broadened by someone mansplaining a pendantic distinction.
You do realise Brisc is a RL politician and lobbyist, right? He doesn’t only understand it better than you, he lives it and he’ll also virtually murder you with his word pvp.
I’m not saying power and privilege are mutually exclusive. You can be granted the privilege of power. This here isn’t it because any sort of power is still held by the people you think you have the power to influence. Compare this to a power and a privilege of a government official. He’d have the power to start a war, but maybe not the power to finish it in a certain manner. Compare it to a low fraction shareholder who has the privilege of influencing a business but not quite enough to have any semblance of power.
Maybe after a lifetime of education and experience you could tell the difference between power and the illusion of power. “It’s democratic as long as we can vote”… jesus christ.
I don’t have the power to change your mind. I just have the privilege to try cause I’m in this forum. Maybe I could change your mind with a threat of force or a large enough bribe, but you could be an idealist. There’s a nuance for you.
