The Argument for War Declaration Changes

HS, with the lowest PVE rewards, should be the safest against PvP.

That is not currently the case.

Wardecs are being addressed now.
Suicide ganking should be next.

Please explain what you mean by “safest against PvP” and which other area is currently safer than high-sec in your opinion.

Care to explain how it’s not "safe with only 21.54% of kills are in HS?
Of which a tiny percentage is wars and ganks?

Oh wait
You can’t.
You’ll even find a way to deny this publicly available data since it doesn’t fit your little narrative :joy:

There are 5201 systems in EVE. Of those 5201 systems, 1090 are highsec, 817 are lowsec, and 3294 are nullsec.

Excluding WHs, more than 60% of EVE systems are in NS.

So 1/5 (as roughly 20%) of all kills happening in HS, is grossly disproportionate for a sector that should be the safest, and NS the least safest.

Please give a number, which you find more acceptable and explain why.

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Im just stating facts and disprovving his false claim that HS is safer than NS.
By his own stat, 20% of kills happen in HS, though NS comprises 60% of EVE systems.

No, you’re stating your opinion, which is fine. I then want to know more about it.

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wardec is a good gameplay. comunicate with other capsuliers in system to make defense fleet / hire some one to kick theyr asses. don’t cry on forum. and yeah, HS is most dungerous place in new eden becaus you beliave it is safe. the only safe place here is a dock… oh and null sec.

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I stated facts.

About 20% of kills are in HS, yet NS comprises 60% of EVE systems.

NS with greater PvE rewards and no PvP restrictions, should be the site of the overwhelming majority of PvP.

No, you’re not understanding me is what I’m saying. I don’t care for your repetition of facts as you’re obviously only repeating them. What matters is what you contribute in addition to this thread, which is an opinion.

So let’s try this again:

Please explain what you mean by “safest against PvP” and which other area is currently safer than high-sec in your opinion.

Please give a number, which you find more acceptable and explain why.

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in HS you have lvl 4 missions with little to no risk. wardec is compensation for this ‘reward’

Why is so much about WarDec in HiSec? Due to PVP in HS? No, except for a couple of marginal groups, no one concern for PVP in HS. All the story is about passive income near the trade hubs. This is about a profit of few dozen billion ISKs a day . The biggest and the strongest groups that are imposed by their force as monopolists are by no means wanting to share that earnings and with the help of WarDec destroying every competition at the very beginning. That’s why they wants to keep WarDec the structures, structures close to Trade Hubs are in focus, not the poor little structures at the end of the universe.

All this is possible because of the easy control of the game by the CCP. This is too much of a potential influence and money to give it to few influential players and I’m quite sure that in the future all of that profit and power PA will take for himself.

According to stats, NS is safer than HS.

Id propose reaching 5% of total kills being in HS.
Reason for that being HS is not PvE lucrative, and should be the most ship combat PvP restricted region in EVE.

Do the stats account for the cost of caps versus rookie ships?

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You cant fly caps in HS.

What I’m saying is that the stats list kills. When the loss of a rookie ship counts as one kill and the loss of a cap counts as one kill, then what does this mean for the stats?

The isk value of the ships destroyed is not of primary relevance.

If anything, the stats would show that NS flies far more valuable ships as caps, which are not destroyed, and do not exist in HS.

It is irrational that HS should experience 20% of ship destruction, which is supposed to be the safest space, whereas NS, which is supposed to be the most dangerous space and comprises 60% of EVE systems, is not in proportion as to ship destruction either in number or value.

Why is the value of a ship not relevant to the safety? Clearly, you seem to believe a far more valuable ship would also be safer.

Freighters… Jump freighters…

Also, nullsec is safer for the sole fact that people make their own safety. They don’t rely on NPCs :joy:

He means caps as in “combat-oriented capitals”. Just like we say ganking and often imply suicide ganking.