The Like and Get Likes thread III

Learning is about making connections, in our brain or in algorithm. The rule is simple, but when applied in large scales, with some rules, it just works. They are evolving by learning new stuff, and better way wins.

Humans are good at everything a bit, but the machines can be excellent at something depending on the build. Like the autistic child fixated on one thing. But we can make machine not autistic, because we can kill one, evolve another. We cant do that with humans because of moral and ethic values. Now nobody cares about machines. Well, at some point they would have to…

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Some people overuse certain words also. Individuals. AI is also an idividual and dependent on what it was trained on.

Everyone can see what they can learn, just there is not enough similarity to human yet, because its all too fast training, and they teach it to excel at one thing, while human brain is good at many things. So we would have to make AI good at many things at once, even better than us.

Years in the making, but at light speed, and in the end, it will surpass us all.

As long as it have the energy and information pumped into it, it will not stop, like a new mind, hungry for all information and energy, devouring all, like a monstrous black hole equivalent of a mind.

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No, they can’t. Some pieces of software perform mathematic operations whose result looks like art, but it is not art. Software was written to turn bitmaps into numbers, then find patterns in those numbers, then turn those numbers back into images, then operate on those numbers in ways in which they become new numbers which once processed will look like images to us. The same goes for sound and words, but they don’t create, just imitate, and imitate poorly since they can’t tell what’s on those nubmers which becomes what we interpretate. Because they don’t know, they don’t hink, and will never learn to since these fake creations are near the absolute top of what the current software can do. Having a image AI perform something like “now move the chair to the left and make its color a redder hue” is several orders of magnitude more complex than what they do now.

It’s all fake, a dead limb in the development of any actual AI. And yet people will lose their jobs and will have their lives destroyed with it.

And now I’m off to bed. There is more creativity in a single scene of any of my annoying dreams than in the whole output of every ““AI””. I would love if AIs existed and did what they’re supposed to do… but they aren’t. Which means that all the thoughts and ideas and images in my mind which I would love to see in reality and share with others, will remain there for years unknown, since i lack the ability to turn ideas into images… but oh, I have an ability to turn them into words. Or so I think.

Nighties lovelies!

Also: hop hop hop…

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After 48 yrs. the Z80 is being discontinued. :headstone:

Well, we still have our Breadboards.

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That is because for that you need more general purpose AI, and it can be done with more advanced architecture and more learning. Human brain is an end of evolution taking billions of years in the making, and AI is “imitating” the effects, like you like to write, but in fact its how the neural networks function and result of the discoveries how to describe them in software.

We made computers calculate faster than humans, now we will make them make everything faster than humans, just needs some “tuning” in what we actually want to get from it at this point.

Of course people will lose work because of it. Like they were losing it since ancient times and since discovery of basically everything.

But, you can still make clothes yourself, you can get food yourself, you can make tools yourself, you can farm, gather and hunt your own food, you can build your own house, you can do it all, without money, just with knowledge and a place with some basic resources nature is giving you.

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Good night.

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AIs turn images into numbers an then make similar numbers. That’s not how anything human works and it’s not even going in the right direction. The real deal would start like a text interface for a 3D mdoelign software -one which knew what a “chair” is by looking at its 3D mesh, and knew the different names to the different parts, and from learning how does one specific chair look like, learn to categorize other similar looking objects as also chairs with also the same parts. The same would go for an increasing list of objects, and eventually the library would be large enough for the proto-AI to identify objects scanned from reality as similar to those in its library . That’s not how our brains work, but it would be a way to teach a machine how the outside world fits into its computing.

Turning a bitmat into a number and bruteforce that number into other numbers until removing enough wrong ways to process the number so the remaining ways are mostly correct in our eyes is a dead end. The AI doesn’t knows what’s in the image. It’s just a number mathematically similar to other numbers and none of them means nothing to any AI. They just perform mathematical operations on numbers. Or sounds or words, for the matter. This is why I call it imitation. Looks like something someone would do with a brain, but it’s just the result of a bunch of maths and those maths can’t go any further.

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Oh yes they do, its associating images with descriptions. It making a connection between description text and image as a bitmap, and it will remember it. It can then regenerate portion of it, or something similar. But nobody knows which neural network node will connect with which, like in your brain the cells dont care about it, its the end effect that matters. If you write that it turns images into numbers, well neurons in brain work similarly, they fire or not, its like 0 or 1. Allan Turing proved that any computation produced by a specific turing machine like brain can be computed on a universal turing machine like computer built by humans. How the function is emulated is a matter of design.

So you could say whats in the image above just by description? The AI goes thru similar process for every image its shown.

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Heads will roll irl.

EDIT:

Something job related.

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Also I believe that an AI generated novel would use phrases from other writers and would not be the same as an original writer who I also believe a human Writer / novelist would do hard research and to be original or at least only reuse own content from past books and characters to the include a sense of connection within their line of books.

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Every writer uses words, and words are not patented. Phrases or structure can be similar, and AI is already doing rhymes better than me, it is also styling better than me.

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I stepped out into the bright sunlight

We all know the book that was from!

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Writing is more than putting words together, the same as architecture is more than laying bricks together. What is written, how its written, why is written, is what makes literature. A statistical analysis of which 20 words are the more likely to follow up from the last 20 ones will not cut it, and so far the largest threat of AI to literature is the increasing clutter of AI garbage piling up at the doorstep of the gatekeepers. People are literally feeding a billion bananas to a billion monkeys typing a billion words on a billion typewritters and hoping it will make them some money by sending each pile of trash to anyone accepting original works.

Art is limitation; the essence of every picture is the frame. If you draw a giraffe, you must draw him with a long neck. If in your bold creative way you hold yourself free to draw a giraffe with a short neck, you will really find that you are not free to draw a giraffe. -G.K. Chesterton

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The way AI can now operate is really nothing like it will in future. We are not in the finish lines, but its a process that is really just taken off in the scale of how things changed fast technologically in the past, and how they will in future. It is really like when the transistor was invented.

Now for something completely different:

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Looking at that picture answers the question about the egg did come before the chicken.

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Time to go to sleep… nighties lovelies!

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Wouldn’t the AI use something like this though?

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I think i’ve invented a new kind of dream. Last night I dreamed that I had waken up because I felt the thump of a cat jumping on my chest, despite a) we no longer have cats and b) back then we kept the bedroom doors shut at night. And I was asleep but also kind of awake because I could choose to wake up while I wondered whether I had dreamed the hit on my chest or it was something real but not a cat. Then like a few minutes later I dreamed that my mother was waking me up because something was wrong with my father, but this time I knew it was a dream as I couldn’t make a choice of waking up.

Now I’ve read that above twice and is making almost as little sense as what I experienced. Damn…

Anyway, it’s time to go to sleep. Nighties lovelies!

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When you mention that it’s time to sleep are you referring to the 2nd nap time as I had read you have a cat. I understand cats wake us up and we get up and feed them in the middle of the night before going back to sleep.

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