Or maybe they’re not referring to souls at all.
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Probably it’s hard to tell haha, will probably have to listen to this thing like 100 times before anything starts to make sense.
They use flow in a number of ways, context driven, as with anything that the Triglav do. In at least one sense it is a form of existentialism applied the Triglav as a whole.
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Everybody talking about flows.
Nobody talking about the Vedmak with 2x Disruptors firing.
Where do I get one of those? =)
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I wonder, flow could in some way refer to time or some sort of time line.
Vyraj is k-space? Why is K-space so important to them? They seem to have come from W-space so I would think W-space would be their pride and joy.
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There is a time sense to the Flow of Vyraj, in that it is life moving forward. So on one level Vyraj is all spaces, moving forward towards some sort of ideal of harmony, what the Triglavians call sobernost. Part of the message is about ancient domains being closed, or lost to them. This could well refer to Anoikis, as much as New Eden itself.
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You should be. Sounds like they like Nation about as much as New Eden does.
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Less.
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To be frank, “Clade’s” does sound like the kind of establishment that serves excellent rum, a house beer, and little else.
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Tiny, insignificant, minor quibble - if they’re going to actually talk to us (which is a welcome development) they could at least make a token effort to use a less cryptic speech pattern.
I mean, we deciphered theirs. I’m pretty sure they’re capable of doing the same to ours.
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Wow I’m so incredibly thankful that this highly complex and advanced culture decides to speak three people at a time.
And thats the format they chose for a declaration of war, where having a clear understanding of what is being said is absolutely essential.
No you know what ■■■■ this they don’t get to play the “culturally confused and incompatable xenos” card if they are human descendants then I have a hard time believing they wouldnt understand the glaring issues in this format. This has to be some Triglavian equivalent of “big timing” or being purposefully dramatic and obstinant.
Either way these Triglavians are total assholes or complete edgy nerds that take themselves far too seriously.
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Which is possible, given that we must look like country bumpkins to them. Fun to troll and mess with.
Also possible, given their choices in fashion. I mean, space hoodies. Still can’t get over that.
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Uh … having just watched the related episode of The Discourse, ah, it seems like saying that the Triglavians declared war is a little misleading?
I mean, they kind of did-- but, not on us. Against us they’ve only invoked “cladistic proving,” which is basically saying that we’ll need to prove ourselves for them to cooperate with us.
In other words, the situation’s just as we thought, on all fronts: they’re hostile to the Drifters and to Sansha’s Nation; they’re working issues out with the rogue drones; and they’re testing us.
This is basically just verifying what we already more or less knew. Isn’t it?
(Aside from, you know, demonstrating a kind of terrifying ability to hack whatever they like?)
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Now that you mention it, they didn’t actually say anything we didn’t know already. Aside from that bit on losing access to their “Ancient Domains”, which would imply that the war isn’t actually going so well for them.
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I think they might just mean that they’ve been lost in the Abyss for a few thousand years? That these stars, and maybe Anoikis-- and “Ancient Enemy Azdaja”-- were effectively lost until intruders (Azdaja, the rogue drones, Sansha’s Nation, and us) found their way to them?
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Now that you say that, it does kind of make sense. Drifters and Sansha first show up in the W-space they would consider rightfully theirs, then double down and barge into the Abyss as well. It figures that they would be somewhat upset.
That just leaves the question of how the hell do you even get lost for millenia in a region of space that… stretches the contemporary understanding of physics. Considerably. Even I can’t drink that much.
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Admittedly, the header on that episode is a bit bombastic. I’ll talk with the staff.
Otherwise, though, I think the reportage isn’t too far off the mark.
More importantly, though, the question this raises is: what happens from here?
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Well, perhaps with an enemy snapping at your heels you hurry through a door and slam it shut behind you? If they can’t figure out how to open it you might have some safety, but you may also need to adjust to some new realities.
Maybe after all these centuries the Drifters have figured out how to open those doors? (Their ships still seem to suffer terribly, mind-- the Abyss isn’t kind to them at all. So maybe before, the Abyss was somewhere they just couldn’t go?)
New question: isn’t it interesting that Zorya Triglav speaks with three distinct voices? They speak of themselves as an “emanation,” which seems like it might mean … ah. All kinds of things, really.
Is there really just one mind behind that mask?
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… might not be a proper name, but a term for the group of three.
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Sure. But they seemed to imply a single mask, presumably sitting in front of a single head. Assuming that it’s not actually three people and a … well, random entity in a mask, which it easily could be-- wouldn’t it be interesting if that really were what it’s presented as?
One head, three voices?
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