It’s almost like many of us in the large Wardec groups warned everyone about these changes - that it wouldn’t change much.
I can hear the “one more nerf” chanting louder and louder. If CCP wants a scarier Eve Online as they’ve recently eluded to, then let sharks be sharks and the food chain will sort itself out 
The structures however, are not safe…
But they can’t be located so…anonymity tanked…
Well it changed for the small wardecers. The entry bar to wardecs was increased again, which is just stupid in my opinion.
Structures are easy to find
I own 5 stations…all held by different holding corps. How do you find them (other than my main corps station that you obviously found)?
I don’t care about you, I care about killing the structures.
If you don’t want to be wardecced you won’t be. The mechanics are such.
That’s the new wardec meta it seems.
And it can be profitable if you are willing to invest some time.
Nobody is arguing that structures aren’t hard to find… Everyone also knows that you can avoid being WarDeced. Everyone also knows that you can still make ISK bashing albeit 50M less than before. You don’t need to repeat these points.
You are still are not getting the point of corps hiding their stations from you.
But it is not the stations that are being hidden.
It is the corps themselves.
This is nothing new.
They are from my main corp…you can’t find those other 4 stations so whether you say corp or station, it’s semantics.
Perhaps I am missing your point.
But seriously it is not that difficult to watch someone’s group for a bit and link their mains/alts/structures… unless you are playing hidey-ho and in that case more power to you for being proactive.
I can still wardec and attack virtually any structure in highsec…
My main corp owns 5 stations. My mining corp (non-wardec-able) is not tied to my main group in any way to protect them. I use contracts to haul so that’s a no-go too.
No, you can’t find my stations as other than the main one, the others are isolated in every way. And that is the point. I could have 100B in assets for a non-combat entity in those 4 other stations and you would never know…
That is a problem. A big problem and not just for the “hidey-ho” types as this totally stifles WarDecs. Years ago you would find corps owning clusters of stations in a system or constellation but now it’s mostly small holding corps.
All that did was stifle conflict…reduce risk…
…shrugs…
Before the changes you would have just kept your mining characters in NPC corps, so really this isn’t that different now is it?
…subject is not mining characters in NPC corp…
In a number of cases, there is a way around this with a little bit of investigative work.
In clearing out structures we’ve noticed a lot of groups are really naive in how they use them. They have the structures in a separate Corp, but the members of the wardec immune Corp still use those structures freely.
So we just watch the activities of members and see which structures they use regularly and quite often when we look at the CEO of the holding Corp, they even have a corp history that links back to the wardec immune group.
There are some truly separated entities (ie. completely separate industry arm that manufactures and delivers goods and the members of the immune Corp never visit the structures), but lots of groups are telegraphing their structures openly. The activities of their members is giving away all the intel needed, just by watching what they do.
As mentioned. Your mining Corp leads to the structures. If it doesn’t because you don’t use them… then it’s no different to storing assets in an NPC station, so who really cares.
This is a serious question, what is the point of wardecs? Is it just a way to pvp in HS?
But as mentioned, you don’t know that THAT mining corp is mine…it’s just another corp using a station…a station with a few corps actually that use it so. Actually the two other corps are bigger than my miners so…
The point being is that nobody knows who owns what and that means protection…or put another way safer. And did HS really need that? Nope.
Encourage small wars and discourage WarDec farmers…
no different to storing assets in an NPC station
Can you destroy a NPC station? No. Can you destroy a player owned station? Yes.
Not the same.
Yes…it’s one way to legally fight somebody in HS.
thank you.
But I’m either hunting your main Corp, in which case I either know about the structure by Corp ownership. Or it’s irrelevant because your main Corp never touches it. Either way it doesn’t matter.
Or I’m hunting the mining Corp in which case I easily target your structures. Who cares if it’s really the same pilot, I hurt them by blowing up structures they use.
And none of this is new. You could spread your structures out via holding corps before to increase war dec fees. The miners could be wardec immune before also. None of this has changed one iota that actually matters.
Irrelevant. Since I was talking about assets stored in a location you never visit. Either way they aren’t part of the current equation since you don’t use them and they are no safer than an NPC station hanger either.