Still not true. Yes an individual person can do that all on their own. But there is still the OPTION for everyone else to use them without spending real $$$$. The issue would be if there was no option, ie you could ONLY do what you state in your example.
There are bigger problems with game than if you can or cant sell PLEX in game.
One of the reasons they exist, is that you actually CAN sell PLEX in game.
great, make a thread about them.
These threads already exist.
But, to actually calm people who think that the game is Pay to Win, I will tell, that one character who bought his SP and Titan just in first month of gameplay was repeatedly ganked, and all his belongings destroyed, because he was so naive. He had cash, nothing else.
People just dont care who you are, if you are new and have a lot of cash but dont know what you are up to, you will lose everything very fast.
Duh, the point is there are no $$$$ exclusive items. There is no uber damage āgold ammoā that can only be bought with real $$$$ and canāt be sold or traded in game by any means.
Yes It is my arbitrary line. And never did I say it wasnāt P2W. I simply said that āIā donāt have a problem with it unless they were items that were exclusively real money only (could not be attained in game any other way, couldnāt be sold on the market, etc)
āIā personally donāt have an issue with how PLEX is designed. It allows those who donāt have the free time but have the income to bypass isk grinding in game to fund their activities. In turn it allows those who have the time, to gain a benefit of a monthly sub at someone elseās expense.
You may still prefer to simply label that P2W. Personally I donāt care, it is just a label.
What advantage is PLEX giving you?
Oh that pay to win I thought you meant the other one. 
You clearly donāt. EVE is an exceedingly complex and rich game. There is far more to the game than just āI can fly more shipsā or even āI have more iskā.
As far as games go, you seem intent only to want people to agree the game has P2W mechanics. I have already given you that. you seem not interested to explain anything further.
So in your example, the new player with the purchased character has a clear advantage at least in terms of available ships to fly. so what?
When I started EVE there were already players who had played for 9 years before me. Their added experience, wealth, SP did not and still does not negatively impact my enjoyment of EVE. There were also probably players who paid for the shortcuts. They have not negatively impacted my enjoyment of EVE.
In fact the only people who have would be CCP, like when they nerf my favorite ships. But I adapt and move on.
So for the second time I will give you the win on P2W. and ask again, so what?
Iām not handwaving anything. Games that are labelled Pay to Win typically place new players in new servers where all players are starting at an even keel, and only those who pay have any reasonable chance at taking a leaderboard in an event (for example).
EVE isnāt like that. Two new players are going to be competing against 17 years of other player activity - but the deciding factor in their success isnāt in what they can buy from CCP, but in what they can learn and apply to their goals. Selling PLEX may get them into a ship faster - but it doesnāt change everything else that they both have to learn how to do to be functional (let alone successful) versus everyone else in the shared server environment.
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As MMOās go it is far more complex than most. Between the market and manufacturing and PVE and PVP and SOV and all the other parts. Then all the way the loot and salvage and everything goes together to create the things that are sold. It has far more moving parts than any other MMO Iāve played.
Ok so there are P2W mechanics. And itās ok. So why are you still here?
Heck, given that, why am I still here? Iām gonna go play some EVE.
PAY TO WIN
TILL YOU DIE
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can we settle a definition, please?
What is the win condition for EVE Online?
No longer playing EVE Online.
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TouchƩ.
The reason why some people have these crazy interpretations of āpay to winā (which is to say, any interpretation that isnāt the ability to buy a practical advantage that canāt reasonably acquired through normal gameplay) is because theyāve never actually won anything, so of course they have no frame of reference to work from.
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Going out in style is the icing on the cake, there was a thread recently where someone did exactly that.
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