Toxicity in Eve

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My best post so far. Some word of advise regarding this:

The old ways of using semi roleplaying with some sort of muppet leader don’t apply anymore in modern times. It’s also important not to repeat the mistakes of the last time, where the one who had the idea got locked out and the whole thing collapsed onto itself eventually, leading to the situation we have today. The most important part to consider is not to target a specific audience, but going full mainstream and making all antagonistic behaviour a thing for casuals. It’s the only way this will work, because otherwise the numbers will not work out in our favour.

Ego trippers and bullies will lead to failure, if not kept in check. Using money as a reason for ganking or doing antagonistic shenanigans will ultimately also lead to failure, because the idea of using “incentives” is an idea that only attracts people who do not want to play the game for the sake of playing the game. It’s what CCP does, and we all see how well that works out. It creates robots who wouldn’t play this game, if there wasn’t something fishing for their lower instincts.

Rebrand CODE. No personal feelings here, the issue is more one of historical ballast. Concentrating every new person into one corp is a bad idea too. Artificially creating competing antagonistic groups leads to a higher reach among new players, because it provides more options to pick from. Using pod ganking with cheapest, failfitted thrashers should be the perfect day one ganking activity, as it’s the most accessible thing to do for literally everyone and using longer range ships (thrasher, cormorant) makes it far easier even for noobs to gank pods.

Do not concentrate on certain shiptypes, it will not lead to the fragmentation needed to guarantee wider spread development. Miners are great targets, but times are different nowadays and historical ballast is a problem.

I’m happy to see more people picking up on the fact that this is a war of culture. :smiley:

If you believe there is a need for a posterboy, then pick Cannibal/Imperator Kane. He has the actual history and is the perfect person, without him needing to do anything for it, because his history does it all by itself. He’s literally a no-nonsense-in-your-face-boots-to-asses capsuleer to look up to.

i’m still AT my coffee. Yay coffee! Let me tell you, this coffee is AMAZING and it’s the best cheap coffee within 20min of walking. the owner of this place cut out all middlemen and trades with the owner of the coffee directly! He even sells it literally in bags, or pads (not capsules) for people to buy! 300 pads for 20 bucks (my dad get’s discount) for a coffee Starbucks would wish to be able to sell!

Anyhow, always willing to help and give advise. I recommend making use of that, instead of listening to people who think they want to somehow promote their self importance. There are many out there who do not care about the game and culture, which will make things fail bigtime. Things will not work out, when you put a jerk, ego tripper, or a word warrior, into a representative position.

i hope i didn’t skip anything of importance. The ultimate goal is to push antagonistic behaviour enough that it becomes mainstream, and THEN you will gain not only the voices, but also the ingame activists, to pressure CCP into taking you seriously again. There likely won’t be much change coming until CCP shifted culture towards the full equalization of PvP and PvE (at which point everything will change), but being ready for when the time comes is crucial.

Damn. Real Coffee. Finally again! :smiley:

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