5th Air Daily Goal?

And the rest aren’t kill some rats anyone can do that scan sites like takes 5mins max. Make something sure I got millions of materials from salvaged loot. Armour rep a ship just shoot a corp mate then heal them. All are cheese

Just thinking maybe have the 5th Daily Goal be Faction based, such as complete an Air Career Challenge and receive a small percentage increase in your characters Faction standing…

Which Faction though?

Basically the Faction your character belongs to…

For example, my Characters Faction is Minmatar so I’d get Minmatar Faction standing…

It’s an interesting idea (one I’m certainly not opposed to).

CCP needs to start moving away from constantly giving out SP’s and ISK…

Everybody could use an increase in Faction standing…

Faction standing is irrelevant in a large part of the game though. It’s more a HS thing, when you do missions or want to set up sales in NPC stations.

I think the only time in 7 years I have looked into standing to one of the main factions was to figure out how I could access a T3 locator agent.

If I recall correctly, the majority of players in this game are in High Security space which means Faction standing is definitely relevant…

There’s already enough ISK and Skill Points being rewarded for completing Daily Goals and AIR Career Challenges, time for something else to be rewarded…

How about Concord Faction standing or personal Security Status increase… Could even be something simple as Loyalty Points for the main Corp of your characters Faction…

It would be interesting to know how many active players there are in high-sec, low-sec, null-sec and wormhole space - even if this is just a percentage. If I had to guess, I’d probably put the numbers for high-sec between 35-45%.

Yea, my alts too visit high security space often.

Most NS, LS and WH people have alts in HS space. In fact, I don’t think anyone plays EVE without also being in HS. So I’m not surprised that the majority of players is in HS.

That doesn’t mean these players in HS are all HS players though. You would have different CSM results if that was the case.

Either way, even though my alt buys and sells in Jita faction standing is irrelevant as I’m not setting up any buy or sell orders there.

EVE is a game about building your own empire and fighting other empires. All of the empire-building gameplay living out of Upwell Structures fighting players - which is a big portion of the gameplay in EVE - has no relation to faction standings, which is an NPC thing.

Sure, there are players who do missions, but giving people faction standing for their daily challenges is a laughably worthless reward for a significant portion of the playerbase. Even if I did care about it on one character, what’s the point of getting it on other characters?

Faction standing is not a universally useful reward, so I don’t think that’s a good idea.

I guess it all depends on the % of time they spend in high-sec vs. other areas.

You don’t speak for a significant portion of the playerbase, especially since most of those reside in High Sec space doing missions, trade, exploration, mining and industry… All of those careers are affected by standings…

Anyway, I actually listed different types of rewards that could be implemented for an extra Daily Goal completion instead of the usual reward of ISK and SP’s…

What seems strange to me is how triggered and fixated you are for me listing Faction Standing as a reward, so much that you felt the need to be openly hostile and demean / insult me for it…

Please spare me any more of your viewpoints on this topic… In other words, don’t bother replying to me again, I’ve had enough…

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It was never meant to be insulting or hostile.

I just wanted to point out that faction standings are worthless for a portion of the playerbase, and as such are not a good reward.

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Not to beat a dead horse, but I’m sure a lot of players feel the same way about SKINR rewards or Evermarks. Faction standing is something that actually benefits all players - because it reduces your taxes at NPC trading hubs.

Fair point, but at least SKINR rewards can be sold and Evermarks can be turned into more SP by using it to complete dailies.

See me above addendum on Faction standing re: taxes. Both Caldari Navy and Caldari State (as an example) reduce the tax component at Jita. So if you don’t mission, storyline or perform epic arcs - it’s very hard to come by.

It only affects sale and buy orders, as it’s only part of the broker fee.

For players who aren’t trying to become a trade tycoon and instead sell and buy their stuff to existing orders (like myself) the faction standings are not affecting sales at all.

Without trade skills or the willingness to babysit orders it’s more profitable to sell to buy orders and buy from sell orders than to try set up my own orders in a market with margins as tight as Jita. These people (me) will not interact with broker fees in Jita.

Faction standings are incredibly useful for a trade alt with trade skills, as the broker fee is reduced with faction standings. But for other players who just dump their loot and buy a new ship it’s irrelevant.

Well, at this point I’ll be anxiously awaiting to see if this (5th goal) is even implemented next week or turns merely into vaporware.

Yea, let’s see if it comes back.

I assume it’s a case of ‘oops this change was already added to the change list but not yet part of the build’, which is why they pulled it from the list. Could also be that they found a bug with it last minute.

Either way I expect we’ll see it again next update.

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