You know, if CCP would put the following statement in the TOS, it would completely end this 20 year debate:
When you Undock your ship, you consent to PvP.
What you be better, (because the TOS is more about the usage of the product rather than the content) is when you undock, a huge, screen wide pop-up with
“By undocking your ship, you are consenting to PVP. Do you wish to undock?”
If you click yes, then there is another pop-up
“Are you absolutely sure you want to undock, you may loose your ship due to PVP?”
This time if you consent you have to type out “I consent to PVP.”
Now this may seem like a lot, but the second step would go away on the 501st typing. This way it is ingrained in the persons mind, and they have been conditioned to accept that the game is PVP, no matter where they are at.
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Perhaps, winning could also mean experiencing the thrill, not necessarily the W/L ratio…
When you’re born, you consent to PvP. ( People vs People )
I think that’s the truth they’re not telling us.
Not in the real world. there are laws in place in each society dictating what is and is not allowed as PvP.
Keep drinking that coolaid. I hope it’s strawberry flavor.
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So you don’t believe that the laws are in place? Is that what you’re saying?
The laws are in place alright, only they’re there to protect some people and not others. Just like the cops, they’re there to protect some people and not others.
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The topic is consent. It’s consent, not experience. One made the argument that in real life, you consent to being murdered by leaving your house- or being born… that isn’t the case because the laws prevent that. You can be murdered, but you can’t be considered to have consented just by leaving your house or by being born.
This is about consent.
Okay. I don’t want to be off-topic, have my posts hidden and write for nothing.
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This is a video game and not real life.
Best you not conflate the two. Because if you are, you have bigger problems than just consenting to pvp with pixilated spaceships.
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Yet people still get mugged , murdered, cheated on…you consent to PvP when you are born
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The law is written words. It prevents nothing, in the end it’s just the pricelist for inappropriate behaviour. That’s why people are told to prudently handle their money and lock their doors.
These are golden rules of life, and here are the golden rules of EVE.
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I was talking about consent. Nothing more. It’s a word.
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A word is enough to be shut down.
Well, in this very sentence you were talking about law. That’s more 
Back to consent: Technically by leaving home, you accept that a mugger will go to jail when caught. You hope nobody will mug you, and you definitely don’t want anyone to mug you (because then it wouldn’t be illegal, like a PvP duel). So any player’s consent is not referring to the deeds but to the rules which apply to the deeds.
And because the consequences of this little difference are kind of complicated, the Golden Rules are a guidance.
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This is about Eve Online. Post reported for Real Life references- they’ve been deleting those in this thread.
Well, that can also be a way to argue.
Have a happy life.