A Useless Capsuleer


(DandyDan Madullier) #1

Could someone give their thoughts to my following useless Rattler Fit ,
That has come very close to killing me in Level4 and has now left me with a Gynormous repair Bill.
Or should I stick to mining?

09:27 07/10/2017

[Rattlesnake, DandyDan Madullier’s Rattlesnake]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Large Micro Jump Drive
100MN Afterburner I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Recharger II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Warden II x2
Garde II x2
Acolyte II x2
Vespa II x2
Infiltrator II x4

Mjolnir Cruise Missile x100
Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x275

Thanks
Dan


(StonerPhReaK) #2

Nothing should be close enough to even think about damaging you. IMO it is over tanked. Activate gate. Land, MJD, Drones, Cruise, Mission complete.


(Kitty Bear) #3

Wat no Gecko ?
nvm, j/k about the gecko.
Seeing as you have Cruise/MJD combo … Stick with just sentries

3x Purger II’s in the rigs
Swap the DCU for another BCU or a missile/drone guidance unit
Swap the AB for a Missile/Drone Mod, with the MJD + Sentries … just scoop, scoot & redeploy
consider swapping the SRII for 1 of Missile or Drone Mod or TP

2x AIF’s isn’t always the best resistance …


(DandyDan Madullier) #4

Thanks folks,

Back to the learning board


(yellow parasol) #5

Invuls fitting the enemy’s damage profile, mate, will do you wonders.


(Do Little) #6

Here is a blog post from a couple of years ago, just after the Rattlesnake was rebalanced. It discusses a sentry focus fit and a cruise focus fit: http://nevillesmit.com/blog/2014/6/8/revisiting-the-rattlesnake-lmjd-pve

One thing I noticed immediately is you are not fit to use your drones at long range. You want 2 Drone Link Augmentors and 2 Omnidirectional tracking links with range scripts to get your Wardens hitting at 100Km+. A large sentry damage augmentor rig is worth considering. A target painter is useful for shooting small stuff.

The Rattlesnake is a very forgiving ship. I used the sentry fit with Wardens. Land -> MJD -> drop sentries -> use drones to kill small stuff at range, use cruise missiles to kill big stuff -> if anything gets within 40-50Km, pickup your drones and jump again.

These days you can repair your ship free at any Citadel.


(DandyDan Madullier) #7

Thanks to you (and all) I am now off to resurrect my Rattler,

I may just go back to L3 for a bit for more learning with the new Mods.

Before attempting to join the ‘Big’ boys again


(Do Little) #8

Also consider practicing on Singularity. You can experiment with different fits and techniques and everything costs 100 ISK. A whole lot cheaper to make your mistakes there!

If you need to copy skills or ships from Tranquility there are commands you can type into a chat https://community.eveonline.com/support/test-servers/singularity-player-commands/


(Sara Starbuck) #9

You have tons of buffer but little regen which is wrong way to pve usually.
The purger rigs and maybe couple shield relays would make the ship pretty much invulnerable.
Also swapping resists to mission specific would give like 50% more tank easy.
Looking at your ammo you were fighting bloodraiders/sansha who shoot lasers and your shields have weak resists against those.


(Rosov Aulmais) #10

Don’t do missions with more than 2 gates because they are just waste of time.
Also, try repair at a citadel for free.


(Jaquan Wessette) #11

This is what I currently use:

[Rattlesnake, Rattlesnake]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
'Stalwart' Particle Field Magnifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Micro Jump Drive

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Caldari Navy Warden x2 
Federation Navy Garde  x2
Hobgoblin II x5
Gecko x1

Opted for active tank since it allows me for more precise control than passive one and doesn’t compromise my DPS. Get in. MJD if needed, bombard from range. Rinse and repeat if you really need to. Also don’t use missiles other than thermal or kinetic. Snake sadly doesn’t have bonuses from hull to other two types.


(Nerdz Rool) #12

Active tank with LSE2’s?


(Jaquan Wessette) #13

Yeah. Buffer seems to be working for me.


(Nerdz Rool) #14

You are now using a hybrid tank, mixing buffer tank with an active tank. Which works for pvp sometimes, But for pve you would really want to focus on either one to maximize their potential.


(Celise Katelo) #15

Repair bill !!!

Just Orbit a Citadel, if you have Hull or Overheat damage.


(Andrew Indy) #16

Just Orbit a Citadel, if you have Hull or Overheat damage.

Repairs in a Citadel are free now as well, much faster than the Tether repair.

@Jaquan Wessette

This is what I currently use:

You don’t have enough Cap to run the Rep for long and you don’t have enough regen to tank he DPS. Better off picking one and using the spare slots to increase DPS.

@Do Little

One thing I noticed immediately is you are not fit to use your drones at long range. You want 2 Drone Link Augmentors

Personally I would go 1 Drone Link and one drone range Rig. Otherwise you are dropping DPS. (I doubt the drone damage rig would make up for 1 less launcher)


(Jaquan Wessette) #17

Indeed I did mess up with my fit. I don’t use LSE. Instead I have Target Painter and I believe the cap recharger. Cap Stability isn’t much of an issue since for the most part I only pulse my Booster. Damage from most l4s is not enough to warrant constant use. Especially once I sit at sniping range.


(Nerdz Rool) #18

Honestly: docking, repairing and then undocking takes more time than having the tether repair you.


(Andrew Indy) #19

Depends on the damage, Repairing a Snake Gecko takes like 5-10 minutes to repair. Heat Damage repairs pretty quickly.


(Angelina Is) #20

[Rattlesnake, Rattlesnake]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II

Warden II x2

Just use this it should work. Also add tracking scripts.