A win for bots?

Hello, ore compression allows people who mine in isolated areas of the game to economically move the ore to for example Jita and sell it.

Compression also seems to make the non-compressed ore meaningless, it exists only to be compressed because its practically free and instant. Why was this introduced you think? Lets discuss or not

It is probaly a hack meant to compensate for the lack of asteroid belts in null-sec

Compression of ore has been in the game for a long time and has the very positive effect that it gives CCP two separate balance levers when it comes to ore volume:

  • one volume for the ore as mined in belts, which is relevant for (mining) ship cargo space
  • another volume for ore transport for industry purposes, which is relevant for haulers and the ease of moving minerals between systems or regions

Compression allows those two volumes to be separate things!

And it also can be used as a reward for taking bigger risks with industrial core or by fitting an extra service to structures.

Compression has many positives for miners, haulers and game balance.

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Thank you for your insight

Kernite and Omber are more valuable uncompressed as they are used for storyline missions, and the agent won’t take them in compressed form.

To give an example of what would happen uf compression did not exist:

Either the regular ore size is standard, which means moving uncompressed ore is a terribly inefficient way to import minerals as the minerals per m3 are very low.

People would instead ‘compress’ the minerals another way by building items with a high ratio of minerals per volume for transportation. There are older threads with discussions about the most efficient items for this purpose, if you’re interested.

Alternatively if the compressed ore volume becomes standard mining ship balance would be messed up. Ore hold sizes would become much less relevant, the Mack and Retriever (specialized in a large hold) might as well be deleted and non-mining ships like a mining Gnosis would see light of day, mining support ships would become less relevant and rarely risk their industrial core.

And picking an ore volume in the middle has the worst of both worlds.

Compression is pretty nice.

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Yep, it was called Trit compression, and that used to be the way we had to do it. Manufacture modules that refined into more m3 of Tritanium than the m3 size of the module.

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It seems ore compression allows bots to project ore from isolated space all over new eden

Not only bots, but real players too!

It’s a pretty useful feature for any hauler, miner and industrialist.

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Free and instant 100 times compression makes the game feel smaller

And jumps clones and cynos don’t? Instant travel across the entire EVE galaxy at the push of a button?

Teleporting 100 times compressed ore around seems like a bad thing

Ore compression has been around now for I’d say about 10 years, so it obviously hasn’t been a problem. Even if we couldn’t compress on-board ships, we can still compress at player citadels.

If 100 times free ore compression is not a problem why did Equinox nerf mining in null sec?

CCP has nerfed mining everywhere over the years…

I wonder why

Nullsec just whines about it because they were used to making 10 billion ISK every 5 seconds…

How are those things related?

When players can compress ore 100 times instantly and for free they can export it and flood markets with ease, hence the nerf to mining. What other reason could there be?

All that does is drive down the price of ore. If we couldn’t compress, the value of the various ores would greatly increase and it would cost even more to manufacture ships and modules…