Do you really think that war that would involve Imperial Navy would be hard to miss? You speak that toy war between militias?
If you had war with Amarr Empire, you would speak untold devastation not just skirmishes between small fleets.
AMAZING deflection, hot damn. Your wife must love that super dexterous tongue of yours.
So, even if your false accusation about demanding the āEmpireās unconditional surrenderā were true, that would be exactly the same you are asking of the Minmatar. Clearly, you are not looking for a solution that would benefit both parties. I can deconstruct your earlier proposition further if you wish, but I guess youād just ignore that too and just start accusing people of being un-co-operative for not bending over backwards to satisfy a hostage takers demands - such as you admitted yourself the Amarr to be.
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I literally put the freedom of all Minmatar slaves on the table as a point of concession, and you deny that this is anything of value to exchange.
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Untold devastation like in VakāAtioh battle, Lord Vaari?
Or maybe like in Mekhios battle?
Or maybe like a huge swarm of Imperial Navy vessels around the gate after passing capsuleer TLF fleet has brought them into action?
The successful war consists of series of successful small operations, Lord Vaari. The enemy can strike anywhere, and when you amass your whole Navy in one single point, you reveal your back to the enemy to stab there. For example, after our fleet has liberated Caldari Prime from Gallente occupation, if they would decide to sweep through the Federation just for the sake of āuntold devastationā, Gallentes wouldnāt engage us, becase there is no Navy more powerful than Caldari Navy, they would instead strike to our flanks, somewhere around Tierijev and went bringing their own āuntold devastationā to unprotected systems. And that was unacceptable, becasue security of Caldari citizens means way more than killing some random unimportant hostile targets.
But in any way, I myself have seen Imperial Navy actually fighting TLF. And I bet most of Imperial capsuleers have seen that as well in Amarr Empire high security space. And what happens in low security spaceā¦ that can get quite intense. And what about you, Lord Vaari? Where do you live? In a nullsec?..
Freedom of all Minmatar is of immeasurable value. However, I see this is extremely hard for you to understand; Amarr have no right to keep anyone enslaved in the first place. Amarr have no right to ask concessions from a people they have so horrifyingly wronged. If we lived in a bloody sane universe, the Amarr would realize the error of their ways and do the right thing.
But because we live in this sad, depressing slaverhounds ass of an universe, that is not going to happen I guess. Instead we apparently have to help our abuser to abuse us again, cut off our left leg to get the stolen right leg back.
But forget it, I see this will not get anywhere because apparently in willful ignorance you discount the humiliation and further emotional abuse your āreasonable propositionsā would encompass to a society your people have in more ways than one, utterly humiliated, broken, beaten, wronged, and just generally shat on for hundreds of years already.
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We have not seen true assemble of any fleet during the age of independent spaceship captains. Our industry and power pales in the face of empires. All alliances and coalitions combined our power are merely fraction of even lesser empires.
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I fully understand what esteemed missus says. However I disagree with her on some areas. Firstly, we have full right to enslave every race we please for we are the Godās chosen. I however think we should not because it is barbaric. By doing so we diminish ourselves beyond levels we except from our servants.
Slavery has been, is and will be reality within our glorious Empire. Itās importance has been on near zero, high and decreasing. When we conquered the planet Athra and named it to Amarr Prime, slavery had little importance. Encounter of minmatar tribes was pretty much jackpot of our enslaving habits. Billions and billions of people in few planets with very little to defend themselves. It is reasonable to say that somehow minmatars had developed ahead of their time in space travel, but in same time their weapons were antiqued. Within this era technology, they propably had not suffered so totally unconditional defeat.
In this thread discussion we must forget if enslavement on minmatar heritage slaves right of wrong. It is and it is very important part of the Amarr Empire economy. It has been decreasing steadily and in some point perhaps almost alla minmatars are free. It will not happen today, or even tomorrow, but im rather sure it will happen.
I wonder how that would work of all the races decided the same thing, that they could enslave any race they wanted because God? 
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I dont know. They are free to try if they so decide.
I donāt understand. Are you saying that a just and righteous God would allow enslavement even of those he, or she, called chosen? In this case all the races. How does this make sense?
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If Iām so intolerable, Baka, then STFU and ignore me. PLEASE!
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There is only one God, the one Imperial Faith decrees. He allows enslavement but only for us. I do realize there are many faiths in this universe. If someone wants to challenge us and try to enslave Amarr Empire, I say let them try.
So, hypothetical question here, if the Amarr were enslaved by another race what, if anything, would that say about the Amarr faith, the Amarr god, or even Reclaiming?
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It would say that as a people we should rise as a whole to the final crusade to free ourselves or face martyrdom.
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Thank you for your time, Mr. Vaari.
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Lord Vaari
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You ARE intolerable Baka. Thus STFU and stop distracting me with your useless comments, since as a baka you canāt say anything of value anyway. Iāll gladly ignore you as soon as you will stop speaking to me, I guess even such dull Minmatar as you could have guessed itā¦ probably not though in your special case.
You know, at least this thread is a nice demonstration of how impossible it is going to be to resolve this conflict through diplomacy. Aldieboo here is considered one of more āprogressiveā of his nation, and still displays a stance of completely unreasonable, morally and ethically deplorable demands that he knows can only push further towards war and destruction.
Think Kittenz or the rest of that lot would be any better?
The Amarr are ensuring that only two choices remain, war or surrender. Want to take bets on which one you should be ready for?
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nothing against freedom all eyes on tradition.
sounding less opportunistic - setting slavea free is an act - if formulating realities to which war is an obstacle compared to trying to preserve a reality in which war is a drive. This needs to look at traditions as they are a motivative force to which both sides return in situations that are hard to clear. and thus formulate a reality in which tradutions are a supported or antisupported. from this realities plans to achieve them can be backtraced.
its not about formulating a speech of āi have a dream that one day the children of matar and amarr will hold unchained each other handā as this is just romantic wording.
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I propose that all Amarr places of worship be cast down, the clergy imprisoned, and the study of the Scriptures to be outlawed. The Amarr planets shall be reduced to a purely agricultural economy, with all manufacturing to be moved off-planet to orbital stations, which can be monitored for any illegal arms manufacturing. This state of affairs shall be maintained by a multinational occupation force, consisting of equal parts Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar.
Given the success of the Amarr Empire in eradicating and suppressing the Covenant, I am sure that suppressing the Amarr religion shall be equally effective.