Hi, I’m chloroken, I make EVE videos but also love Linux.
Merging both interests, I’ve created a community to ask questions, share knowledge, and talk about EVE on Linux. Even though EVE is not officially supported by CCP and probably never will be, many players do play on Linux anyway. This is a group for them.
If you’re curious about how to get started with EVE on Linux, want tips on how to optimize your performance, are looking for a multiboxing solution, or are a Windows 10 refugee, come by and say hi!
I would advocate to use the already established “Launcher on Linux, here be Dragons” thread on the official EVE Online Discord instead of having yet another discord.
Thank you for the advocacy, but a thread buried in the official Discord that hasn’t had a single message sent in over a week is not sufficient for us. We have channels devoted to platform-specific guides, distro-based roles, dedicated help channels, and more.
This new Discord is already super active and has helped a bunch of people get started with playing EVE on Linux. We’re super friendly and happy to work with even complete newbies. Come say hi, don’t be shy. <3
I am on enough Discord servers that are super active and friendly, funny how some of them would describe a single message in a week as a great spike in activity by now.
Official CCP channels like this forum or the Discord make it easier for both CCP devs and new players. I agree that the current thread is not easy to find, but everyone going somewhere else will not increase visibility either.
And of course the long term goal should be a channel/section on the official CCP Discord for space faring penguins.
CCP does not support Linux. There is no official space for it and never will be. Even this forum is vestigial. Your thoughts are noted — please stop derailing the thread.
I totally agree, the official discord is not the place to have discussions about linux and eve because it doesn’t provide the platform for help and discussion at all.
So having a dedicated discord for those is appriciated.
I strongly disagree with making a Discord for this. Making posts on this forum is a much better solution. The information is available to anyone without requiring any registration, it gets archived, and it is visible in a web search. Moving discussions away from forums and onto Discords is a very nasty trend for the internet, especially for niche topics where new people interested in trying an activity could really use easily accessible guides. Running EVE on Linux is just such a niche activity.
I’m not sure what you’re accusing me of doing, I don’t use reddit.
So let’s make the information readily available. Let a new Linux user type in “eve online linux guide” into their search engine and find a thread on the forum, rather than maybe eventually finding your discord among the three dozen other EVE Online discords, then having to make an account there, download another client, and then struggling through finding anything with Discord’s useless attempt at a search feature. Even if they already do have a discord account, the information is still needlessly complicated to get to.
Using open forums for discussions like this is just a much better solution period.
I’ve gotta say, I don’t understand this hand-wringing here.
We made a now-500-person strong Discord devoted to helping people get set up that includes establishing a public wiki on gitlab that instructs people how to install Linux, get EVE running, and how to optimize it. EVE University has a page that references our wiki and links back to our Discord and videos. And one of our foundational rules is that nobody can profit off of the server. Using the EVE on Linux Discord to vent your grievances about the state of the internet isn’t warranted.
If you think Discord sucks - we do too! We hate it, actually, for all the reasons everyone else does. But our mission is “To support and guide Capsuleers interested in EVE on Linux.” and the absolute best way to do that is to talk about Linux on my stream and offer people a community that they can actually feel comfortable engaging with. For normies, that means Discord due to its ubiquity.
As for our Discord excluding non-English speakers, this isn’t a business. We don’t make money. We do what we can because we want to help people. You can translate the wiki articles we’ve written if you want. If you speak another language, why not come by and create a channel in that language?
I’m personally super proud and thankful for everyone who’s participated in the EVE Linux community. It’s not perfect, but so many people have been helped along and it seems like more and more are interested every day. Discord is just a less-than-ideal vessel for our enthusiasm and desire to help each other.
And before anyone will reply to you: no, the forums are NOT the best way to help people troubleshoot, guide, and instruct them how to fix their setups to have EVE work on Linux. They’re just too slow.
There’s absolutely no way a forum can have the same level of immediate back-and-forth chat between any Taroven and the Joe H Random guy trying to start the Launcher on Proton, when one asks to try this and that, to verify this parameter or launch option, and in realtime the other answers with what s/he sees onscreen.
It’s the same difference as having a debug session over email compared to a shared video call with screen sharing.
Not even close.
Also, language barrier: sorry, but not sorry. Linux is a gaming niche, EVE is a gaming niche, Linux in EVE is an intersection of the two. Unless the complainer that the Discord doesn’t support random language X or Y will actively work toward supporting the language himself, I see no reason whatsoever for this mega niche to be fractured even more.
Imagine we had a subchannel for language X, lets say italian because it’s my first language.
Imagine someone will help an italian speaking gamer to solve an issue in italian. That solution, and its audience, would be limited to those understanding that language, and somehow “hidden” from the general playerbase. And people having the same issue would ask the same question in english somewhere else.
So a niche language in a niche game on a niche operating system.
