In case you want to participate in the current Operation Nemesis public playtest for EVE Vanguard, and you’re wondering if/how that can run on Linux, here’s the status:
Yes, Vanguard can run fine on Linux
Yes, it requires some extensive fiddling to make it behave with current Easy Anti Cheat and authentication issues
it has been tested on Steam, but other ways are being explored
More importantly, the current workaround procedure and active discussion with devs about how to better let penguins run it can be found on the official Vanguard Discord thread here: Discord
The Operation Nemesis event will run until 2nd of October.
Thank you for the heads up, but i will not start to look for that information elsewhere than in the EVE forums. So please share how to do it when it gets usable.
The problem is that we have now three points where information can be shared…forums, discord and reddit.
I don’t like to have to frequent three information sources and to guess which information could be where. The forums are the obvious choice to have something written down permanently for everyone to be found if needed.
The official news venue for Vanguard is the EVE Vanguard official discord server. The one I linked.
I’m sorry you don’t like it, but I stand my point.
As a form of courtesy, I forwarded the EVE Online forum users with a link to the pertinent information - which is not this forum. Also consider that the public playtest runs from 16/09 to 02/10, devs actively hang out in their official discord (they put out three patches in three days from players’ feedback), and joint debug sessions with them are a lot easier to participate in and summarize in a pinned post than threads on a forum of another game.
Still, the minimal summary of the summary is:
add a non-Steam game with executable start_protected_game.exe (hint: use locate eve-vanguard/live/WindowsClient/start_protected_game.exe)
find out launching parametrs by running Vanguard from the Launcher (hint: use ps faxwwww | grep Shipping while Vanguard is running)
copy all parameters verbatim from the running exe command line into the Launch Options in the non-Steam game
close Vanguard, close the Launcher, run the non-Steam game
Discord has never been, and never will be, a legitimate replacement for forums. It is great for actual workflow and collaboration. It is not ok for anything that requires moderate level of permanence.
The fact that discord became the ‘official’ way to communicate is based clearly on being lazy. Devs used it in house for work and simply let us join. It is not the exclusive place for official news on Vanguard either. If it were, there wouldn’t be nag screens on the main eveonline.com page inviting us to join operation nemesis.
Ah, the forum where the last Dev interaction is from November 2024?
Yeah, sure.
Lazy or not, your opinion or not, it’s the official Discord where actual progress is made, and where the community explored and developed the current workaround.
Don’t like it? Be my guest. Being out of the loop is a legitimate choice.
get mad at katrina all you want, but EVE Echoes and Vanguard are NOT EVE online, and the devs chose to use discord for both those games, instead of creating whole new forums for them.
How mad everyone gets if you speak against Discord tells a lot in my opinion. Please calmly read again what we asked for: a replication on the forums if and when relevant stuff has been figured out or needs to be told.
I hate fragmentation and just do not have the time to read the forums, reddit and discord. Information should be easy to find, searchable and available permanently. On reddit and discord this is questionable.
I know that the fault is not with Katrina Bekers, but with the Devs doing their stuff anywhere but in the forums where they direct their paying customers to. However she is not just posting the info - which is very appreciated - but also seems to advocate for everyone to join discord.
Well, at least i am not the only one with concerns. A good summary is here:
Yes This. No, I’m not mad or crapping on Katrina. Katrina is fantastic for at least posting that yes it works and a linky to stuff.
Its just simple facts. Discord is not an acceptable substitute. Its not even worth arguing about the developers choosing to use it. Like I said, they use it because it is easy and moderately lazy.
I know it is hard for people to stay on topic on forums…but for real…if something useful pops up in a chat discord or otherwise, one should feel a moderate responsibility to cross post for permanence. I don’t even want to scroll through our alliance mattermost or discord fully let alone eve reddit or discord. If its important…just post it.
Discord is not much different than a forum nowadays. What about discord makes it so distasteful to some? With discord, you can actually talk with the Devs.
I dont understand why you want to gatekeep that kind of information behind a third party app.
Eventhough this Post isnt about EAC it clearly isnt hard to provide this kind of Information on the forum.
Still a third party, since you need another account. Here you already have an account, which you actually need to play EVE Vanguard as well, so it is not even an additional account.
And people can find the information here without signing in.
And since Ragnar posted that Vanguard forum section: It is clearly missing the Linux subsection
Just look two posts up and follow the link for reasons against discord.
Also please don’t focus on discord. Not all is happening on discord, reddit is also involved with many things. I don’t understand why the information nowadays has to be split in three different locations and is not centralized, searchable, permanently retrievable as it used to be.
Listen, I agree with you all that forums/threads have better persistency (and horrible outdated-data management) and chats/channels have better instantaneous interactions and feedback (and laughable search features). And that the Dev Team should try and consolidate all info in a single place, without needing external accounts, etc.
I fully agree.
But this is it.
Let’s be happy that a bunch of resourceful users found reasonably easy workarounds and let everyone in Linux land enjoy this product from CCP.
Not to mention CCP UK itself, which enabled the EAC module to work with Proton, etc.
And by the way, CCP Quogu personally checked (but not endorsed and even less support!) a patch submitted by a user to slightly amend the launcher itself and make it work with Vanguard on Linux by removing excessive quoting. A joint debug session with CCP Shortfall pointed the “too many “quotes”” (!) as the root cause, and a Javascript property for the Electron framework as possible solution.
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