ARC has received several instances of video data from corrupted trinary via gray data market intermediaries. The video appears to show a penetration of an as-yet-unknown facility but as-yet-unknown parties, as previously released via ASMR-. We can of course theorize that this is an essential part of the mobilization of State and Federal forces in the Serthoulde constellation, but the exact nature of the discovery and its importance to interstellar politics remains unknown
ARC is currently offering a bounty for additional information or data, given our policy of neutrality re: Yulai Accords powers.
Given their only known source, is this not the same as essentially placing a bounty on the destruction of Caldari Navy vessels? Specifically the ones currently facilitating the apparent search and rescue mission the video fragment depicts? Seems rather poor form.
Actually, no. You see, the majority of the acquisition of data is happening from abandoned wreckage following clashes between the State and Federation navies.
Intervening is an excellent way to get hunted by whomever happens to be around; salvage is quite another thing.
Ms. PrianoâŚplease tell me you are not so deluded that you are willing to ignore the fact that this bounty will indeed entice individuals to destroy ships of both State and Federation navies. Yes, members of these navies have sworn their lives and know they may very well perish on their deployment. But shouldnât one try to avoid giving people a reason to kill others? Or have you become so desensitized to the fact the majority of people in space are not basically immortal. Research goals aside, and using âsalvagingâ as an excuse to justify to yourself what youâre doing is fine-- this is wrong.
I would expect this from many, many capsuleers in various organizations both friendly and hostile. But this is a new low for you, Makoto. I am ashamed to see what you have become.
And before anyone implies this is I-REDâs opinion, this is my own as one human being to another. Perhaps this sort of personal opinion on the value of life is getting more and more rare these days.
Ms. Avala, I absolutely appreciate the value you place on the lives of other people. I completely agree, and share the desire to preserve life.
The reason why Iâm willing to risk this incentivization? Because, to be perfectly frank, an imbalance of power at the cluster level will lead to more loss of life, greater bloodshed. Youâre part of the Caldari Militia. The pilots you donât criticize are, day in and day out, engaged in the killing of other people. They desire an imbalance of power such that they can, potentially, complete the conquest of another nation. Letâs not forget that the most fanatical of them even advocated for the deployment of Titan-scale armaments against an inhabited planet. Some of them, to this day, believe the only possible final resolution of the low intensity conflict is the obliteration of the Federation.
So, yes, I understand completely that there is a risk that this incentive structure may cause further loss of life.
My belief is that by attempting to ensure the spread of information, we can maintain the balance and restrict the bloodshed to this localized conflict.
And I should add? At this very moment, the majority of ARCâs trinary data from Athounon is from Caldari Militia sources.
If you are insinuating I donât criticize those people as well, you would be wrong on a multitude of levels.
Stop diverting blame away from yourself. I am not bringing points up about them. Iâm bringing them up about you.
I once respected you, and truly believed the work you did over the years would make a difference in one way or another. And maybe it did. Maybe it still will. But that doesnât change the fact that what you are doing is wrong.
I will remove myself from this thread, as Iâm sure my viewpoint is entirely unwanted and you want to get back to your data. Good luck.
Iâve never seen you do it publicly, Ms. Avala, so indeed I donât believe you do. Perhaps youâll provide proof of the ideals you espouse here in other places, and Iâll believe this is anything but posturing.
Meanwhile, indeed, ARC will continue to work for the betterment of humanity.
Going completely mask-off with this ridiculous tripe I see.
I would legitimately like to address this point by point, but what you are saying is so detached from reality I genuinely do not even know where to begin from.
Shame on you and shame to your entire organization of demented imbeciles fashioning yourselves not only as âresearchersâ, it seems, but now arbitrators of balance between the CONCORD signatories?
If I may, there are ways to ensure the âethicalâ sourcing of these materials through legitimate salvage in the wake of clashes between the Caldari and Gallente Navies, but a bounty is not the way.
If ARC is concerned about how these objects are procured, might I suggest they instead contract specific trusted capsuleers who will not instigate or facilitate the murder of national military personelle in order to obtain bits of data for blurry found-footage reels.
That is, of course, if ARC does care about that sort of thing. If not, please go right ahead and use the morally bankrupt method of paying any spaceborne murder hobo that has them.
Hrm. So back when I took issue with ARC housing a corporation that kept being militarily active within Republic space - against Republic loyalists - I was largely considered something of a bully for holding the alliance responsible for such clearly non-neutral activity.
Now these days as ARC actually maintains far more neutral stances, the outrage towards them has increased by orders of magnitude.
Have to wonder, what happened to make them this unpopular all of a sudden? They certainly havenât gotten any more questionable, dangerous or otherwise unpalatable than back then. Their critics certainly havenât gotten more principled all of a sudden either, so one has to wonder what kind of conflicts have arisen backstage for this play to become quite so fraught with anger and bitterness.
Ms. Delâthul, honestly, itâs the way of it. Weâre alternatively too partisan, or not partisan enough, for the combatants, who in this case seem to be making a point of wanting to avoid any casualties-- which is somewhat remarkable for a, uh, former Collective supporter and an Imperial combat captain with approaching fifteen thousand logged kills.
When an organization places âthe good of humanityâ first - whatever that term implies - it means that rather than serve any cause greater than itself, the interests of that organization eventually become âthe good of humanityâ. Without sturdy roots of authority and tradition, the vine twists and their first loyalty becomes their own ambition.
We are now watching this play out before our eyes. Priano-haani, shame on you. Honor the memory of your ancestors and mend your ways before it is too late.
You know Ms. Priano, I know a whole bunch of people who might possibly have very valuable information that ARC may want, possibly. You want me to send you their names and general locations? Nobody would miss them if they were unfortunately found murdered by mercenaries, I assure you.