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In Origin (which is as much a mix of cultures as a culture of its own) these things are allowed, and they are quite common.
I can only really answer how my own polygamous marriage works:
There are two households. Both my wives are friendly to each other. Now I think about it, I guess thereās not much of a difference with monogamous marriages, apart that I have two of them. There is something I have done to make it work a bit better, but itās not quite legal (outside of Origin), strictly speaking, so I wonāt mention that here, even if itās a bit of a public secret.
I do not understand why the rights of child A1 are unclear if those for child B! and B2 are obvious.
I agree with it being hard enough. For me, it was not a choice. I did not go looking for a second significant other, but I fell in love with another one, and my love endures, despite the added difficulty.
I feel like there is some contradiction in this. If you only care for one and no one else, then I think there is no sacrifice, and it does not demand self control and discipline.
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Really?
Didnāt the eggheads say:
That means that we are biologically wired to sleep around.
Itās easy to give into temptation. It take sacrifice and dedication to not to. Lest we become just like animals.
Last I checked we are animals. Just because we can (and should) control ourselves doesnāt mean we arenāt animals.
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No, we are more than animals.
Sure, biologically, but cognitively? Nope.
Cognition is an aspect of our biology. Itās simply more evolved than in other animals. But itās still a naturally evolved trait.
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No. There is nothing inherently gross about polygamy. Thatās sneaking in āreligion, law and tribal nonsenseā again.
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Thanks for making my point. Yes, we are more evolved than other animals.
Yes, it is gross. I canāt imagine the mental and emotional agony it does to each member in the relationship. All vying for each otherās attention. The jealousy it brews. The backbiting. The cuckolding. Iād also bet youāre into āopenā relationships as well.
Well, I think our discussion may be a bit semantic, but what Iām trying to say is that if you are tempted, than you donāt care for no one else.
You really canāt. When it comes to the vying for attention, Iāve found an effective solution. The jealousy becomes less of an issue once you learn that even if your significant other has another partner, it does not threaten your relationship. I really doubt my wives are backbiting about each other. Cuckolding does not have to be a part of it. I am into open relatioships, though.
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Everyone needs a hobby, I guess.
I feel bad for you and your wives though. I canāt think of much that is more selfish than sleeping around with whomever, and pretending that everyone is okay with it.
āMy wives sleep around on me, and itās perfectly fine! Iām A-Okay, because I can sleep around on them!ā
This makes my skin crawl.
But hey, no worries. What you do in the marriage bed is your business. I honestly can say, that I donāt want to know anymore details.
You flatter us extravagantly, Mr. Thorne. Human intelligence and reason is an impressive tool ā¦ but thatās all it is.
And itās not like we even really let either of those govern us. Reason, mostly, is a tool we use to justify the decisions weāve already made. And intelligence mostly helps us efficiently achieve our most elaborate mistakes.
We might be the most dangerous fools evolutionās produced to date.
So maybe you donāt flatter us, after all. Maybe itās an insult, saying that we donāt belong in the same category as things that donāt murder solar systems and call it progress.
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How do people manage to become capsuleers without fairly basic education?
Evolution does not have tiers or ratings or levels of ascension. Our intelligence is a trait that served us well as a species, but is hardly indicative of āmore evolvedā than anything else. Thereās utterly brainless globs with the structural integrity of your average sneeze thatās objectively more successful than us in terms of adaptability, survivability and biome availability and so on and so forth.
Thereās organisms with vastly more genetic history of adaptation through mutation, which would be another measurable metric of having evolved more than we have.
Intelligence isnāt some sort of evolutionary goal. If anything, it looks like itās something of an anomaly as far as evolution goes.
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Ah. Pilot?
You realize the reason weāre not allowed to have multiple active instances of a single individual is because instead of all the clones approaching it rationally thereās a strong tendency for it to result in mental illness and eventually progress to ā¦ ah ā¦ alt-suicide? (Autocide?)
Much as we like to act like our emotions are ours to shepherd and train to jump through hoops usually itās more like the other way around.
Since when does one need to have an argument for a feeling?
Gross, you have sex with your kids?
Because Iām talking about the consequences of sexual intimacy between multiple adults.
No. No weāre not. Weāre no more evolved than other animals. Thatād imply some animals stopped evolvingā¦ and they donāt. Nothing ever stops evolving. As long as organisms exist in an environment, any environment, theyāre adapting to its conditions, no matter how little those conditions seem like theyāre changing.
FFS, this whole nonsense just screams of people with no concept of how evolution actually works.
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Of course you would want to take out the sexual aspect because thatās how you justify your sexual deviancy. Sex changes the dynamics and your trying to create a false equivalency to justify sleeping around and being sexually promiscuous.
Who are you really trying to convince here. Me or you?
Playing the supposition game are we?
How about this.
Deep down in my soul, and my gut, I know itās inherently wrong, and disgusting, for me.
If you want hump the legs of everyone you meet on the street, donāt let me stop you.
No, I didnāt imply that they stopped evolving.
You did however.
Iām implying that we are on a different branch of the evolutionary tree where we have evolved functions that other animals did not.
āBootstrapping tool use,ā using tools to make better tools, and then those to make better tools still, and so on.
Itās a powerful ability no doubt, but Iām not sure it makes us not-animals any more than key defining traits of other species do. Eusocial insects live radically differently from other, more solitary or even just conventionally social creatures. But eusocial insects are still insects, and insects are still animals.
It also seems to me like a lot of the most harmful things people do start with people telling themselves theyāre special-- better than other animals, better than other human nations, better than other bloodlines, better than their neighbors. It seems like the end result of this pretty consistently is deciding the world owes them something extra for being so special and therefore they have no qualms about taking it.
But probably they canāt help it. Itās in their nature; theyāre-- weāre-- just animals, after all.
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What does this have to do with sex, marriage and monogamous vs. polygamous relationships?
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It has more to do with whether weāre on a different branch of the evolutionary tree. (I wonāt argue weāre on our own twig, but soās everything else.)
You might be aware I have some opinions about Caldari marriage customs, Mr. Thorne, but I donāt claim to be representative. (Well-- I might be; it can be a little hard to get an accurate read on public opinion in the State. Probably Iām not, though.)
As for polygamy ā¦ we mostly donāt do it presently but itās one of those things where Achuraās kind of a big place actually and there are a lot of different customs, both currently and historically, depending where you go. Usually polygamy starts cropping up wherever ābeing able to support multiple womenā (in a context where the women arenāt expected to support themselves, sigh) becomes a status symbol.
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Personally, Iām not a fan of the State Matchmaking System. But I do find value and virtue in a monogamous relationship.
As Iāve said. Self control, discipline, sacrificial love, devotion to name a few. As for polygamous, forced upon those due to cultural pressures, that gets a bit of a pass. Adhering to family traditions if one canāt break away.
But polyamorous and open relationships for the sake satiating oneās own sexual apatite, oftentimes wrapped in a thin wrapper of ālove is love, and I love many peopleā is justā¦.Ick.
Nothing of virtue and/or value was lost.