Isn’t Tranquility located in London?
I’ve been playing EvE on various characters since 2010. This is the first time that CCP has made a decision that has pushed me to the forums.
Please do not continue with this. EvE’s biggest strength by any and every measure is its community. By sticking a hallucinating slop generator in the game, you are actively saying, “Do not engage with the community; fly solo and don’t bother asking for help or talking to your fellow players.” This is beyond asinine - why do you want to take the major strength of the game and devalue it for the sake of a planet burning slop generator?
I have brought multiple new people into this game over the last year. A couple handfuls of which have purchased Omega (including a couple two year packages). And what they needed from the new player experience was NOT a slop generator; they need a gradual introduction to the world. They got some very basic, janky hand-holding for “how to press buttons” and then spit out into the world having to figure out topics like ship fitting all on their own. They knew the mechanics of how to do it but not why - and that seems utterly ridiculous. Look to your own communities, like EvE University, and see how they discuss the topics. Take some of the broad concepts and expand those starter agents to include things like “We need a new ship but don’t know what needs to go in it; can you help us build it out?” Guide the players through the world and interactions with it, not some disembodied AI.
This is a horrible decision and while I am glad “Failure is an option” is being stated, it needs to be the final outcome as well. Nothing about AI slop in EvE is, or will ever be, good. And frankly, the people I’ve brought in - and myself - are more than willing to walk away with our money if CCP continues supporting this AI/LLM garbage slop generator failure of a technology.
thats what joining a corp is for.. there is SO MUCH information in this game thats why there are so many youtube vids and tutorials OUT OF GAME.. joining a corp is for finding out how to fit and why..
Problem is, the company’s infrastructure is not on Iceland, it’s in London, where power prices are expensive and cooling is hard to come by.
Too true. Pity because, as i said, Iceland WOULD be a good place for it.
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I’m disappointed none of my accounts were in the test group, I like LLMs and would have greatly enjoyed the opportunity to break this one by asking it dumb questions.
Lets See how good they can make it.
I mean, AI has endless possibilities in EVE, not long and you will see AI controlled ‘pilots’ with real names in local, corps and logos, flying ships to fill the universe with content. And we wouldn’t even know we just killed a bot.
In Call of Duty Warzone™ there is a new casual mode for battle royale where instead of 150 players only like 30 players and 100 or so bots starting on the map. And guess what, for casualplayers it’s an awesome feature. 10 times more fun than the regular mode.
Count on it, we will have that in EVE too some day, so you come back from every roam with 20 killmails instead of moving around for two hours and finding nothing to fight. NPC bots will gladly fight, at every Corner! ![]()
Futureworld, Westworld, Eveworld…
Wouldn’t a more intelligent AI/NPCs be a good thing?
Bringing AI to EVE, or any game environment, seems like the next step in the gaming world. This is as good a place to start.
The current state of AI assisted EVE answers, seems to be very poor.
AI is part of games for years. Either you don’t know much about AI or AI for you is only LLMs and other statistical generators.
So it seems you must think this needs to be integrated.
For me however there is not much currently in the IT world that i hate more than being constantly flooded with AI slop everywhere. It now directly affects my purchase decisions. If it jumps me in the face and is mandatory while it utterly sucks, i will take my money elsewhere.
Some people just want to play a game and not chat, beg and bargain with an NPC for issuing each mission. If things are implemented they tend to get mandatory and therefore you have to prevent the implementation at all cost. At least if you want to continue mission running in EVE without being forced to get social with your NPCs.
Cancelled my subscription. If this is removed I’ll consider re-subbing.
All negativity aside: Where is the feedback so far?
You’ll see feedback when people are actually interested enough in talking with the clanker to roll up enough new accounts until they get her.
They really do need to update the new player agent missions. So much bad lessons being taught. Like fit a turret to your mining ship, or that you should let yourself die in PvE instead of warping out.
thats useful.. as it lets the capsuleer see that losing a ship isn’t as bad and you can easily get a new ship.
There’s already an earlier mission that does that. Which is also bad, because the quest doesn’t teach players to insure their ships when they’re certain they will lose them.
Hello. I have read the news article and watched the short on YouTube about this change. I am vehemently against the idea of adding an LLM chatbot to the process of educating capsuleers with the intention of improving player retention. This idea seems heavily-rooted in financials and is not in the player’s benefit. The idea that they may be provided hallucinated answers is unacceptable.
Please reconsider this and avoid using AI or LLM tools in the game proper. Keep them to the website or out of the way. If they are not FULLY opt-in, players such as myself will be extremely off put. Thanks.