Bring Back Old Spawns Outside of Exordium

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Prior to the Exordium update, new characters could start in a pre-determined sytstem through options while creating their character. Now all characters are randomly assigned a starter system in Exordium.

I wish the character creation options to start in the old starter systems was not removed and that a choice to spawn in Exordium was an addition, not a replacement. I often create many alternate characters for a variety of reasons. The implementation of forcing new characters into Exordium has made an unfortunate burden on many of my playstyles.

Any others out there unhappy with the force spawn into Exordium?

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I created a character, spawned in Exordium, used the gate to Yulai and was done with it…

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You can use these to insta travel, just once, to your faction space of choice.

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I was unaware of this mechanic but will look into it. Thank you!

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They did that so that if friends all join together, irregardless of race, they could play together.

Ignore the post above mine

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A possible side effect of Exordium, is the population of Amarr (and here I mean Amarr space) “may” decline, even if only slightly.

Before Exordium, all 3 Amarr career agents systems were 4 jumps from the Amarr system, the trade hub. Now, they are either 26 jumps away if they take the “new” high-sec route (the “shortcut” introduced with the gates between Rayeret and Jakri), or 11 jumps if they use the shipcaster (do they need to enlist to use it, like the other shipcasters?).

What I mean is, before, Amarr had a chance to retain NEW players being born there (I’m not talking about veteran’s alts who are moved to Jita, Null, or wherever outside their race empire because of whatever reason they create them). Some NEW players could be: hey, I’m here alreay, what can I do around here, and “settle” in an Amarrian system (even if only for some time, when they figure it out), for mission running, mining, abyssal, whatever. The Amarr hub is active, so buying and selling stuff is fine. If you had no specific goal at the beginning, and were just experimenting the game, settling in the same space your first character is born is an easy “by default”. Exordium is definitely “it” now.

Now, Amarr will need to be attractive to get them to move there, since it cannot just capture them by default. If Amarr pilots going out of Exordium through Yulai wanting to do some PVE stuff, Dodixie is right around the corner (4 jumps from Manifest, 7 total from the career agents). That’s the closest hub to sell their Exordium loot, and to buy their first fits. Why take the long route to Amarr just to do the same type of activities you can do next door from Manifest?

Jita is still attractive and I guess video guides and Newbro channel probably still recommend it as the most active hub, so the change with Exordium is insignificant.

Rens “might” lose some new players to Hek, as Hek is now the closest of the 2 from Exordium (both through Yulai or the shipcaster). Not as far as Amarr, the Minmatar space may also lose a bit to Dodixie/Gallente space. Rens used to be the closest to Malukker and Embod, and Hadaugago was only 2 jumps from Hek, but in a different economic region so, if you don’t know much and just look your regional market, Rens was probably the default hub to sell your career agents loot. (Same logic applies to Embod, of course, though Rens was a shorter distance, new players probably took the (slightly) longer route to Hek as it was the obvious trade hub when they look at the regional market from sitting in Embod).

Time will tell if Amarr space (and the trade hub) will be biggest loser with Exordium.

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Specific to your proposal, I totally support. Though I haven’t created an alt in probably over a year and have no room to do so with my current accounts, and my altaholic self is trying hard to not create anymore.

Now my limited understanding is that you currently can’t create a character tied to the “security” oriented career agent (State War Academy, Federal Navy Academy, etc). Only the “distribution” and “mining” ones (from an LP Store perspective, that’s what they are).

So, another option could be to keep the “security” oriented career agents for character creation, with the warning that they will start in Empire space, not Exordium.

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I think that’s the plan, not sure they got the balls to implement it tho.

Remain to be seem.

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All they have to do is change Ahbazon into 1.0 :slight_smile:

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As a carebear who love to travel between the 4 empires for various reasons, restoring a similar 10 jump connexion between Amarr and Caldari space would be awesome. A 0.5 connexion would be enough, especially considering Niarja was a 0.5 system. But now Ahbazon connexion has its purpose, lots of people enjoys it, so it should remain as it is.

But here the subject is Exordium, and my point is the new “shortcut” created for Amarr to Exordium is anything but a shortcut. I was not advocating for newbros to flee Amarr and move to Caldari, I was saying newbros now have no default reason to settle in Amarr space, so they may not even try before a very long time, after spending time in Exordium and Gallente first. But then only for sightseeing/visiting, not for relocation (depending on how much they accumulate, the idea of moving all their stuff could be daunting)

Making the Imperial Academy (in Deepari, it is a “security” oriented career agent system) available to new character creation would give an option for new players (and vets’ alts) who wants to settle in Amarr to be there right away.

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Because as you can research on zkill, Dodixie will make you bring out a tear or two if you go there.

When was the last time you did some business there? I really would not suggest this to new players these days if you don’t want to have them ragequit…

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Dodixie is a crap shoot these days. Many things are severely overpriced or simply not available, especially meta modules like the ones newbies will need to use.

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Eject from rookie ship you spawn in station with.
Set home station.
Self-destruct.
Bye Exordium.

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The audacity and the self-evidence some people have to use the report function as a weapon to silence other opinions is legitly funny :stuck_out_tongue:

I ‘wonder’ why the mods allow this…no wait…we all KNOW why :slight_smile:

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Not that I plan on making a new character, but to my knowledge, the other schools still exist. It is just a matter of when you exit Exo heading to one of the other 3 career schools to train up. If or when they remove those schools, then FC must place entry points in other regions Domain, Metro, and Forge. As it stands now, it looks like they are favoring the Federation faction.