Carcal and Drake PVE fits?


(Joshua Christen) #1

any good pve fits.


(ISD Sakimura) #2

What would the purpose of these fits have?

You need to be more specific than this. :wink:


(Joshua Christen) #3

vs guristas pirate


(ISD Sakimura) #4

Better, now we know the enemy. :slight_smile:
Still… what sort of activity? Combat Sig(s), Anomalies, missions (what lvl?)?


(Joshua Christen) #5

i am new to the pve aspect but Combat anomalies class 4,5,6 and mission lvl 2,3 and higher


(Arthur Aihaken) #6

You’ll want a battleship for L4s and mission-specific frigates and cruisers for Burner missions (there’s an excellent guide in the PvE section). Not a Drake or a Caracal, however.


(ISD Sakimura) #7

If you are referring to the Rated DED sites of 4,5 and 6/10. It will be difficult but not impossible (inefficient though) to do the DED 4/10 with a Caracal, however 5/10 and above will require a BS or T3C to handle the task. Read more about Combat complexes (sigs) here.

For L2 missions the Caracal will be fine (may be a few that will require extra efford). For L3 missions Drake is fine however if you want to progress and do L4’s you’d probably want to aim for a BS as NPC BSs can be tough to chew through if lacking in DPS (as the Drake will)


(Joshua Christen) #8

lvl 2 mission running carcal

lvl 3 missions running drake

Guristas Scout Outpost drake fitting


(Geo Eclipse Oksaras) #9

one of the drakes i used

[Drake, Drake]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
J5 Enduring Warp Disruptor
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


(Nerdz Rool) #10

Why do you use a buffer, not passive tanked ship for pve?.. better to use purgers as rigs to get more passive regen.


(ISD Sakimura) #11

I’m thinking along the lines of this:

Caracal, L2 Mission Caracal

Low-slots

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Mid-slots:

Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Large Shield Extender II
Dread Guristas Thermal Dissipation Field
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II

High-slots:

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Rigs:

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Drones/Ammo:

Hornet II x2

Scourge Precision Light Missile x5000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x10100

Drake, L3/Scout Outpost Drake

Low-slots

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Mid-slots:

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Large Shield Extender II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II

High-slots:

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Core Probe Launcher II

Rigs:

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Drones/Ammo:

Hornet II x5

Scourge Precision Heavy Missile x4000
Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x10240
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16

You will need a CPU implant to be able to fit the Probe Launcher. This fit is for fighting Guristas, if you want to fight other, you’d need to adjust the Hardeners accordingly. The upside is you can use this for both L3 Missions and Scout Outposts. One important information, the fit is not cap stable with MWD on.

if you carry around a Mobile Depot and Data/Relic analyzers you can refit and run some sites if you feel like you want to do something different.


(erg cz) #12

I hope you did not forget, that Gnosis will give all bonuses for low skill point char for free… All mentioned Heavy missiles fits lack application modes, IMHO. Guidance enchancers or computers, you know… L2 and L3 are full of really small and fast targets.


(Chainsaw Plankton) #13

purgers are probably better, but eh it’s level 3s, it really shouldn’t matter unless you are very low skilled.


(Anderson Geten) #14

say that to the “cut-throat competition”.


(Kynami Vaille) #15

That mission isn’t Guristas that flat out against Caldari Navy units with the provision that as is a “rival” corporation you aren’t incurring the usual faction kill penalties. Perfectly doable with a dual-rep Myrmidon however.

Back to the topic at hand however…

Most L3s are doable even if definitely slow to clear with the Caracal. Just run a passive kite fit. But since you mentioned Guristas… you could run an amazingly stupid passive tank on a Moa that would make most missions something of a joke. ~90% kinetic resistance takes your effective hitpoints over 75K and ~250 EHP/s in tank recovery. You would spend about 35m setting a Moa up for that, but it could be worthwhile.

I’ll also point out that in addition to guidance enhancers or computers the target painter is another really good option for improving missile damage. Shame nobody saw fit to mention it previously.


(Anderson Geten) #16

My point was : the DPS in this mission is over what a passive fitted drake can handle (sometimes the triggers are weird), unless maybe perfect skills.
since you are almost perma jammed after the first trigger( which you dont know what it is), it is a very difficult mission for which extra tank is not “over”


(Chainsaw Plankton) #17

Ah well I would have never ran that then.

anyways last time I did lv3 running it was on a well skilled character with t2 guns in a ferox with hyperspatial rigs and a buffer tank. There might be a storyline mission where it matters, kidnappers strike 10/10 has a lot of BS rats, but you don’t have to kill them so it might not matter. And that one anti caldari mission which most people are going to decline anyways.


(system) #18

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