I don’t think this kind of forced behavior implements well into the eve universe.
People might get a false perception of the game itself if the rules are forced to offensive.
at least I like to be aware who a person really is instead of this forced “good” behavior.
off course it still would be possible to be nice to others if you want people having a false perception of you.
but this would be effort in a way and could therefore be respected.
the point is I would prefer rude discussions over fake not honest discussions.
What is offensive to you is probably not offensive to me.
This is offensive as ■■■■ to some people. Click at your own risk.
I'm not offended by someone calling me a jew, speaking in disbelief of the holocaust, making black jokes, mom jokes, fat jokes, or jokes about suicide. Practically nothing is sacred to me.
Sure I know other people find it offensive, but that to me is their problem, not mine. If someone has a stupid idea, I’ll call it stupid. If they can prove me wrong, I will think better of them. It has certainly happened.
If they can’t, I’ve not wasted time beating around the bush.
Are there really some people here that actually take it to heart? Or regard it at all? I know that I don’t. If some person strikes me as self-absorbed, incompetent or outright stupid, I have no problem calling them out as such.
As evidenced by several players posts being hidden or removed on a daily basis, I think it’s safe to say that we have several easily offended snowflakes on this forum…
That’s completely false. You meant “what makes me feel offended” . Offensive means it is done to harm. If I knock your balls and you don’t get hurt (probably because you have no balls ?) it is still an offensive action.
offensive = goal is to harm someone, defensive = goal is to not be harmed. Communication = goal is to convey a message. When you decide to add aggressivity in communication that means you don’t want to communicate.
If you can make two discourses conveying the same message, and you choose the one that has the potential to hurt the most, then you are making an aggressive action.
eg. if you could just not post because you have nothing to add in the topic, and yet you decide to call someone stupid, this is an aggressive action. Even if nobody is aggressed because they all know you are a troll and just ignore you.
In this case, you are just using an aggressive discourse as a pain relief, because the complexity of life is too painful for you to accept.
Why are they attacking rather than defending? Was it malicious? The context of “attack” itself does not imply malice. I’m attacking your argument right now - that doesn’t mean I hold ill will towards you, or intend to cause you distress.
Edit: If it would make you feel better, substitute “malicious” with “goal to harm” - the argument remains unchanged. I have no desire to harm you, cause distress, or hurt your feelings. Yet, you (or someone thinner skinned) could easily find it offensive.
Perfect example. Someone loses a ship, said someone is female. I infer that they lost their ship because of their gender, purely in jest. Turns out they’re feminazis and completely fly off the handle. I had no intent to harm, I was making a joke (certainly one in poor taste, but that’s basically the topic of this thread).
Inherently, no. There are a great many ways an attack, as described above, is not done with malice.
Fair enough, never the less the argument remains valid. To offend someone is not inherently done with the intent of harming them. It can be done (and frequently is) with complete ignorance to their position or disposition.
Edit:
Further to the point, the very first definition of “Offensive” as an adjective can readily describe the topic we are debating. a. Causing anger, displeasure, or resentment: an offensive gesture.