I don’t think that’s changing. So if you are in a corp that has a structure and is wardecced’, you should still be able to drop corp.
I really don’t understand why you all still replying here? The CSM and CCP don’t care about highsec pvp. We have discussed all these things many times before. On the forums, via mails, via war docs, directly via CCP. And look what happened. I would have had more respect if they would have just said, ■■■■ highsec pvp, we don’t give a ■■■■, then giving us these “solutions”. The evil sandbox is now a hello kitty sandbox.
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Thank you for the reply. Just one more question before i head back into my cave for some time.
Is there a plan for the future changes already, or is there still time for influencing the decision makers?
Thanks!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Back when the PA acquisition was announced, I made it clear that I was unsubbing and waiting to see if this game goes in the same direction as Black Desert. If it didn’t, I was going to resub. If it did, then EVE is dead. This change is an almost exact replication of a BDO mechanic. This change is EVE’s curtain call. This player won’t be retained.
When you make blanket statements that include phrasing such as ‘at all’ with no way of knowing for sure, you risk exposing your ignorance. How did you become a CSM again? Oh, that’s right, the only people who give a ■■■■ about CSM are idiots. The devs were going to make this decision with or without your input, and your attempts to placate the community here is nothing more than lipservice that CCP don’t have to pay because they’ve got their CSM lackeys doing it for them.
Yet at the same time we have a player saying they are resubbing because of this. Congratulations. you just got made irrelevant. Player retention is talking about statistics. Not if a single player will rage quit over the sky not being green and yellow.
I’ve never seen you till this posting
The silver lining: More players will leave NPC and join or make player corps.
The God-ray: the war system has been broken since forever, because it has always been trivial to dodge them. I will never understand why anyone was ever killed in a war who didn’t actively want to be in the war.
And of course the massive, dark stormcloud is that this is one-more-nerf. No, CCP, this will not be enough. It is never enough.
Two days after the release we will have our very first “Citadel Griefing” thread.
We fought for as long as we could, but this battle is over. We demonstrated time and time again across innumerable threads exactly why every mechanical change to make the game safer actually leads to more cancerous problems.
The biggest slap in the face from all of this was seeing CCP Falcon, the dev we cheered when he delivered his EvE is cold and dark manifesto, writing with what I can only hope is feigned exuberance announcing the de facto removal of high sec wars. Then a few added kicks to the balls as I watched him lock threads expressing concern over this direction.
I hope this was a powerplay by CCP to say “We know what he said. We know what you want. This is our game, not yours.” At least then I could be certain that I should move on.
I think now is the time for folks to be putting ideas out. There’s always time to influence the decision makers.
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You had already quit the game by your own admission before this change was made, so my statement still stands.
As for how did I become a CSM, I won the election. Not a hard concept unless you’re actively trying to be obtuse.
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I don’t know what to tell you, bro. Most folks have seen me around. I can’t seem to find your name in the Wardec Discord, either, so maybe you need to come by and say hi.
Be careful, my spittle-flinging non-friend, not to conflate my criticism with rage. The statement made was, “this isn’t going to hurt player retention at all”, which would imply that no one will leave as a result. It’s incorrect, and demonstrably so. It has absolutely nothing to do with players coming back to the game, but whether or not they are going to leave. I suggest you leave your ‘whataboutery’ at the door next time you deem it necessary to attempt a counterpoint such as the one you thought you were posting. I’m sure a lot of people will say they’re coming back, and I’m sure a lot of people will do so with multiple sock accounts to make their position look more popular. Despite all that, my point remains: this change is a reincarnation of BDO mechanics. Enjoy your new South Korean overlords.
To all folks complaining about how eve should not be “too easy”, think about this: the current “easy mode of PvP” in EVE is a high-sec war dec corp only engaging easy prey. You can get explosions and a pretty kb, and your risks are minimal, in practice non-existent.
And no, not all highsec wardec corps are like that, but lets face it, most high-sec wardecs never lead to actual fights. Both data and experience confirm this.
There is no way to force anyone to fight in high-sec. Wardecs are easy to avoid. The interesting part here is that this holds for not just newbies and pure industrial and pure social corporations. It also holds for aggressors who bite a little too much or are counterdecced. Jumping corps, waiting them out, or just simply keeping your eyes open and denying fights that have even the tiniest risk work both ways.
The problem with the current wardec system is not so much that it forces carebears and newbies to pvp against their will. It is that the system does not encourage fights, it encourages ganks and docking games.
And yes, some high-sec wars are fun (cheers and gf to some recent targets, you know who you are ;)). And yes, you can sometimes “win” a high-sec war by effectively forcing the other party to quit EVE. But these are exceptions that happen despite what the system best supports, not because of it.
The content-to-effort ratio of high-sec wars is crap as is, unless the content you prefer is killing people without actual opposition or risk.
Not sure what the structure thing is going to do to fix this (probably nothing much), but if I understand @CCP_Falcon and others correctly, this was just the first step, and the overall aim is not so much to protect either carebears or easy mode pvpers, but to make wars more exciting over-all.
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You already said you were unsubbing, and your killboard last has you active in December 2016. PA had nothing to do with this change, which has been one of the primary suggestions made to deal with war decs for years now. Bringing in PA and acting like they had any influence on this is tin-foil hat nonsense.
Further, as I have stated and so has Fozzie, this is the first fix as part of a fundamental revamp of war decs. It’s not the only thing. The BDO war declaration mechanic is completely different from this, as I understand it. Not sure why you’d claim they’re the same, either.
As for the rest, I’m sorry you’re having a bad day.
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Some of you are unbelievable. Some of you b*tch because CCP or past CSM members did not talk to players on their own forums, preferring Reddit instead. So you finally get a CSM member to step up and try and answer questions as best as possible, but instead of listening, some of you trash his character, disrespect him and everything he says.
I wonder why more Devs and CSM don’t engage the player base on their own forums? 
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I am still not seeing what the big issue is about these changes.
You can still war dec players with structures, you can still gank, you can still bump, most of null sec will still be war dec eligible. Any non eligible alliance can be infiltrated by your corp, which then drops a structure, making them war dec eligible. Pipe camping will still be a thing as you look for the easy prey war deccer’s love.
So what’s the difference; Corp A gets war dec’d and logs off for a week or you make it non eligible to start. Either way there’s no content or kills created, so it seems pretty equal to me at the end of the day for war deccers. Meanwhile, Corp A without a war may keep playing for that week instead of finding other entertainment.
One suggestion I have that someone also made earlier, ALL alliances should automatically be war dec eligible and have no option to avoid wars. The non eligible option should only be at corp level.
Actually, my main’s killboard was active much more recently, my main being Remiel Pollard. You’ll notice it wasn’t just active more recently, but was very very active for a long period of time, mostly in low sec, but also some high sec wars, especially with RVB. I know EVE, better than you think I do. I don’t know you, though. I do always find it amusing, though, when a wormholer or nulseccer thinks they know what’s best for high sec.
PA has everything to do with this change. This change is a replication of existing mechanics in Black Desert Online, a game which I have played but you clearly have not. Maybe you ought to check it out if for no other reason than to remove the stain of ignorance from that comment you just made. The simple fact is, the very concept of war illegibility came straight out of BDO.
By the way, just because you were ‘elected’ to a position that you think gives you power, doesn’t mean you have any. You did skip over one of my finer, but no less important, points: just because you think you had a say in this change, doesn’t mean you did. This was coming whether you had a say or not. That’s the nature of business.
I’ll make you a deal, though. A bet, if you will. That by the end of the year of 2019, this won’t be the only mechanic directly transposed from Black Desert Online. Whatever you wager, I’ll double it if I lose. Don’t worry, just because I unsubbed, it doesn’t mean I gave away all my stuff to the first forum poster who asked. Oh and do I have some stuff.
Also, I don’t care what Fozzie has stated. History has recorded his statements and ‘changes’ to the game as being somewhat mediocre at best. “The first stage of a revamp” says absolutely nothing about the rest of the revamp, and frankly, if this is only the first stage, then it doesn’t bode well for the rest.
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Welcome back fam
You should hop on the MB discord sometime
And yeah Brisc is only as famous as his ego
So can you get anyone to finally address the issue of only having the Corp option as a means of being able to share our assets between characters and accounts?
With soooo many “new features” constantly being made to game, like The Agency, I would think that we could Finally get a solution to this problem, Such As, a simple Secured Hangar that we can access with any character via a simple password, like we can do already with anchored secured containers.
You can even take all the damn credit!!
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Just going to drop this here to back up Milana
It’s obvious that he thinks he has any authority over CCP, despite being nothing more than a pawn in the latter’s eyes.
CCP/PA’s catering to the masses will be what ultimately kills the niche of EVE, but hey at least they’ll have milked it til its death 
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