Devblog: War, War Sometimes Changes

Are you in the same corp as said war target?

If you rep anyone who is actively in a war and has a capsuleer logoff timer, and they are not in your corp/alliance/milita, you get CONCORDed.

You might be allowed to rep people you’re at war with… but I’m not 100% sure on that. Accidentally repping the enemy might get you nuked.

But if it doesn’t that’s a huge imbalance as you can legitimately have invulnerable logi. Just trying to point that out. Dunno why people made such a big deal with the way it was…no real advantage was gained by it. In fact suspect logi is as bad as it gets because any joe blow can point them and the dps can’t do a thing about it.

By what CCP have written it should get you nuked. Can you rep the enemy without going suspect right now?

I think you can actually because I totally remember being on fleets where we held a target so everyone could get on the kill and sometimes you get the guy who doesnt remember his drones and have seen logi rep the WT until everyone got on the kill.

HS or Null? Ignore any thing not in high.

You should be allowed to rep the enemy, it brings intrigue to the game.

HS…my corp used to be HS merc group but bashing structures and never getting a fight unless it was Pirat or Riot got old fast. Also HS carebears are horrible about paying bills so usually you get a payment to start a defense contract then they ghost you next month when the bill is due. I do the LS living with null roams now…lot more fun!

Ahhh but you see under the new system if you can rep the enemy you can put logi in an alt corp and dec it too then just the main and alt corp are at war and no one can shoot the alt corp logi. Whiners shoulda left well enough alone and brought a few neutral friends or alts to deal with neutral suspect logi.

Yes, this will be a good workaround at a price of 100mill per week (which is cheap).

Will be effective.

Less than 1/3 the cost of a decent fit guardian…to have invulnerable logistics…yea id say thats dirt cheap.

Yes but this is what happens when people whinge and whine about something and a “fix” is put in place.

The outcome will be an even more difficult situation to deal with, though now that this has been posted, rather than just planned and implemented, CCP might try to think of a fix to prevent it, because it really will make the situation broken.

Even though that alt Corp will be wardeccable also, it won’t stop carebears from whining, because wardeccing isn’t in their nature, so instead of dealing with the problem, they’ll just cry in the forum.

Its turned into a war of lawyers at this point it seems. I just wish there was a way for small corps to wd the large alliances again. At this point, we would have to pay the wd fee and set up a whq to sacrifice as well.

Sorry nope, that’s going away now. You’ll still be able to wardec goons, etc. since they don’t really care about individual risk, but more the risk to the whole group, and wardecs in highsec don’t really threaten them.

However, this change will drive out smaller groups from wardeccing, in favour of joining larger groups that can defend their structure while maintaining 100+ wardecs a week.

Small corps trying to push out competition, or who have a genuine grudge against someone else? - Good luck.

This change just means bigger wardec groups continuing to blanket wardec other smaller sized asset owners.

Dunno, I like to think I can just put my WHQ in a busy system and wait for war opponents to come to me! Who needs a watchlist after all… :smiley:

According to the dev blog you won’t be able to do that.
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Can you confirm if you can rep your war targets. If so see the above exploit to avoid danger.

Nothing in the devblog prevents repping valid targets.

The devblog is focused on neutral logi, not valid enemy targets.

From the blog.

Since you don’t share a corp/alliance with them, they certainly are at war, and they will be engaged in PvP, then according to the blog it will get you concorded.
Now that ‘could’ be a bit vague of course, but what they’ve written already covers the exploit.

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Except as usual, in your eagerness to be right, you’ve ignored the whole context in the sentence above:

Under current mechanics, if a neutral character applies a remote assistance module

An enemy target is not a neutral character.

Even now, if you put logi into an Alt corp that declared war on you, that logi does not get a suspect flag for repping you.

Try it. Go see for yourself that the situation you are referring to already doesn’t apply as you are describing it.

Which is why I said it could be vague and I’ve already asked CCP in to actually address the question, something which none of the rest of you have bothered doing instead just rabbiting on about how you might abuse it.
So… Yeah.