Downfall

Are you ever done whining?

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You know the answer to that.

They never are.

:grin:

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We would rather not have a million 12-year-olds screaming “fa&&ot” and something about your mom into their headsets every 5 seconds, thank you very much…

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Such is the duality of the EVE player. We want CCP to focus on EVE and put other projects secondary to their only successful product, but we’re also unwilling to accept changes that would worsen the game and bring it closer to mainstream appeal. It’s not an enviable position, they’ve only ever made one good game, but that game is very niche and hasn’t grown in ages.

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Let’s be honest. Eve has 10k multiboxing 30-50 year-olds that do the exact same thing.

IIRC the median player has only one account, but the average accounts per player is three. They’ve brought these stats up at fanfests over the years.

Nor does it need to. EVE has only ever had 65k concurrent players at its peak, yet it has still generated enough revenue to keep running for over 22 years. EVE is the longest-running space MMO, and I believe 3rd-longest running MMO in gaming history. Being niche is what has kept it alive this long…

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If the current generation of gamers had their way, they would run EVE into the ground in less than a year…

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I don’t disagree. But we’re players, our priorities are quite different from those of the shareholders.

Didn’t work in your case :smiley: sorry opportunity there.

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CCP makes stable $$$, That’s all that counts to them.

Just a cash grab now like many other games.

Like every other game, you mean?

Everything’s a cash grab, now, from AAA studios down to the one-man-team indie developers.

I stand corrected! :laughing:

You can only blame new players with their parents CC. Doesn’t matter the game. And as soon as they fail at that game, they ask for more $$$ to fail at another game. Game companies rake in $$$ and were stuck with an upcoming workforce too lazy to work. Here kid, don’t bother me. Paying your kid to leave you alone seems to be the parenting model these days.

Were stuck. I want to wave the new players suck flag. But what’s the point? Kids these days are too lazy to even have sex. Maybe that’s a good thing? :thinking:

Meh…

This isn’t the case at all.

Responsibility lies solely in the hands of Gamers who never pushed back against the predatory marketing. Gamers kept buying everything that was pushed them, so publishers never had to really step back on it. Who cares what a few thousand complainers say when millions more are still throwing money at them?

How is not what I just said?

You have a bunch of kids who want an award for just showing up with $$$ to buy into a game without wanting to make any effort. Hence, they spend to more thinking it will buy the experience which it will not.

Because you’re blaming the people who simply don’t know any better. Those kids are the children and grandchildren of the people responsible for the continuance of the predatory marketing, it has nothing to do with them.

Most gamers have bent over and bought every monetization scheme they’ve concocted for over a quarter of a century. No one told Bethesda to f*ck off over horse armor, and it’s only gone downhill from there because y’all keep buying the sh!t.

Blame the co as much as you want. I can’t blame them for “The one born every minute.” cash grab. The rest of us suffer for that though.