ESI and SDE copyright statement for 3rd party websites

Hello,

I am very sorry to place such a basic question but I was unlucky to discover clear information on this.

Please can you kindly point me to link in esi-docs which defines what has to be declared on my 3rd-party website which uses/shows ESI or SDE data or anything that is like legal property of CCP.

There is plenty of 3rd-party websites which has it, usually at the bottom of the page and it starts with text: “EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide…”
Examples of such sites:
https://harvest.poisonreverse.net/
https://eveterminal.io/
https://evetycoon.com/
Some of the sites have full statement at the bottom on every page, some have only one sentence with link to full statement on other link.

I am interested where exactly it is defined WHAT and HOW it has to be displayed on the website, so if I deploy my website I do not break any rules/rights etc. I could not find it in docs, could not google it, technical support did not understand my question and could not help me.

I dont think it is mentioned here (or me must be blind):
https://developers.eveonline.com/license-agreement
https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/sections/8413327523612-EULA-ToS-Policies

I don’t think it’s stated anywhere that you need to have that on your site.

But, CCP owns everything in SDE and image server, so clearly stating that you do not own the images/data/etc. on your site is likely a good idea.

I could be wrong and I’m not a lawyer o7

EDIT:
There is no chance CCP will reply to this thread, as it’s a legal issue.
You could try making a eve ticket, as that is the would be only way to get an official response.

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@Bibiana_B this is what you are looking for

PROPRIETARY NOTICES

  1. Developer shall ensure that EVE and the Licensed Materials retain all proprietary notices necessary to protect CCP’s intellectual property rights in the foregoing, including without limitation ownership of all Derivative Works, such notice to be substantially as follows: “© 2014 CCP hf. All rights reserved. “EVE”, “EVE Online”, “CCP”, and all related logos and images are trademarks or registered trademarks of CCP hf.”

this was in the license agreement… of course instead of 2014 you would use 2024

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Sorry ppl it took me so long to reply. But I run these development activities in seasons and when I phase out of development mood I cease any operation. Bad habit I know. Anyway thank you for your reactions, they are much appreciated. :slight_smile:

Yes I understand nobody will ever give definitive answer to my query, especially no CCP. Ticket won’t help as support ppl would not understand the question. I tried.

After several reviews I conclude that the best solution lies in respecting developers license agreement as Geo Eclipse Oksaras proposed. So to cover the core statement as is requested in PROPRIETARY NOTICES i keep mentioned sentence right in the top of my page.

Like this:


It still fits to side of the top menu even when the width of window is reduced to 500px. But I might need new tab at some point. Will see.

After clicking the notice I let user redirect onto some more explanatory text. But basically I will not be using any of text which is presented on other kind-like websites. I will stick only to what is requested in developers license and I refer to it and provide weblink. And if they have issues with it, they can contact me if they feel so.

Done :slight_smile:

Might wanna change the date from 2014 to 2024 or if its not online yet 2025

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I was thinking about this. You mentioned it in your previous post. It might be that declared copyright is applicable since 2014. In that case it could be fine.