If I spend $1,000 on PLEX and skins, which are still in my account, and those items are erased at no fault of my own, I’m entitled to compensation. I didn’t make a donation to CCP, and no matter what kind of clauses they put into their terms, a court could (and most likely would) overrule them.
Does that mean I would get anything back? Probably not, since they’d abscond with what they can, and creditors would get their share before before any users do. Would the customers win such a lawsuit? I’m 100% sure they would. To me, personally, that’s worth the price of admission.
White-knight trolling in favor of appealing to the authority of corporate interests is no substitute for understanding tort law.
To say this in another way: if you think that getting a bunch of people to spend money on your game, and then resetting it so that all purchases are lost isn’t fraud, you’re utterly delusional.
As I said prior they’d have to find a way to keep your skins so you don’t lose them. And also any and all plex would need to be saved as well. But this would need to be voted on anyway by the community if such an extreme change were to occur if it ever could happen. Aside from this a new server type could serve the same purpose.
TBH, this is cool and all, however I highly doubt CCP even has a properly working code base from that far back, or even programmers from back then that can handle their spaghetti code.
One of the biggest aspects to EVE’s development in the last decade is cleaning up badly written code from the early days. I doubt anyone wants to go back to any of it.
Have fun telling that to the judge right before PA’s elite team of lawyers rip you a new one and you end up with a major fine for wasting the courts time.
Come to think of it, perhaps I too would be
As long as there were cameras in the courtroom and you were testifying.
Their lawyers might’ve finished fancy colleges, but my $50/day expert in Bird Law is hungry and motivated.
Also, that’s not how lawsuits work, lmao. You don’t get fined for filing a legitimate lawsuit such as “I paid hundreds/thousands of dollars for a product/service and then it was deleted/removed without letting me utilize it.”
For real though, this would piss a lot of people off and make a lot of them leave (player progress is known in the industry as a “hook”, because it keeps players invested, and helps draw them back when they’ve left). And if it doesn’t kill eve outright, wealthy people would simply rebuild their wealth even faster now that they are more knowledgeable and experienced, and many of the old powers would just reform along the same lines. I’m sure they’d fight amongst each other as they try to reestablish themselves, and this will probably allow more room for unafilliated alliances for a time, but I assure that the blue donut would reestablish itself sooner, rather than later (assuming the game can last that long).
You don’t need a server reset to build wealth, catch up to the vets, be competitive, or claim space. You just need a modicum of brains, a can-do attitude, and a healthy dose of determination.
No idea what you’re talking about, but I find it funny you assume what you do. This wouldn’t be so little me could be powerful but to wipe for the content. I find it funny players in Ark would welcome wipes despite years of breeding lines and effort because of the content, but the EVE community would all just quit. And Ark players are the ones who are considered soft, but okay.
I think you all just don’t like the idea of the rug getting pulled out from under you cause you like the power you have and are perhaps addicted to it. Maybe the whole ‘it’s for content’ is a charade and you really are all just too scared to lose what you have.
So, it has nothing to do with you? Because you’re not the first person to suggest a server wipe, and the people who have come before you have always cited things like not being able to catch up to vets, it being impossible to claim space, or others having an unfair advantage.
No. Like I said, I would be able to build up ridiculously fast after a server reset because my knowledge and experience wouldn’t be reset. So, I simply think it’s a terrible idea, and one that has historically been proposed by those that with defeatist attitudes and inferiority complexes. That doesn’t apply to you? Okay. Still think it’s a bad idea though.
I don’t think all these derps understand how a server wipe would look like to prospective players.
“So there’s this game where players spent money for nearly two decades to build empires and grow their characters, and then one day the developers decided to erase everything because some people complained they couldn’t catch up? SIGN ME THE ■■■■ UP!”
lolno
It sounds like a really swell idea “to help the newbies” on paper, until people think about it for a bit and get that “wait a second…” moment of clarity.
This is the most selfish idea to be proposed. The people proposing it are doing so purely out of the selfish desire to take away from the haves to give to themselves, instead of out of any concern for new or potential players. I bet most of the players proposing it aren’t even new/poor, they’re just jealous of those who have more.
Personally I don’t think you know what you’re talking about nor have you spent enough time in the game. Those of us who have been here for a long time have worked hard for what we’ve accomplished and we value all that we’ve accumulated during that time.
This 100%.
I’ve been here for 13 yrs and the last thing I’d want is to restart again.
Well they do provide an advantage, but yes, skills increase options, and yes even nebros can get kills and make meaningful contributions. I’m not quite sure why you’re bringing this up though. I mean, I didn’t think I said anything that would imply that I believed otherwise.
Which is literally all just worthless pixels. I think you guys are too attached to worthless junk and that’s probably limiting the pvp content that could occur, but to each their own. The achievements in these games are superficial and mean nothing, because in the end it is just a game.
EVE before - single shard pvp sandbox.
EVE now - instances and ‘dont interfere with peoples themepark’.
That doesn’t matter.
If we had an ‘eve classic’ tomorrow. It’s not like people would say ‘were not allowed to have an npsi community because Minted said it didn’t exist and therefore its banned’
And planetary interaction has no player to player interactions. They create items that are sold in an already existing market. But there is no interaction between players that comes just from PI. It was MEANT to when it was originally conceived. But it was never finished.
