Well, there is a reason, perhaps someday you will figure it out.
Sounds to me like youâre making stuff up, and now you canât provide an actual example of why youâd ever equip a T1 over a meta version if the option is available.
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Ah, but thatâs where your ego becomes a barrier to learning. Do you ever wonder why CCP made certain design choices? Are they just stupid, or are you just clueless? Maybe someday you will figure it out, but perhaps you never will.
Anyways, best of luck with your adventures in EvE Online!
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Aiko is just trolling
Anyway if you read further my post, I also reccomended making meta modules buildable using T1 salvage. It would introduce invention to new industrialists and make T1 salvage even more useful. Probably makes it more valuable, so salvaging basic NPC wrecks is now a bigger thing, that in turn introduce new salvaging profession . Also dont give more power to power blocks that control those horrible Metenox drills
Yes to the them just being stupid part. Like when they hard locked the camera to be zoomed in onto your ship at point blank during the new mining âepicâ arc.
(You cannot change it from orbit view, nor can you zoom out.)
I also think thatâs what he means.
However, I also think that what he means is wrong.
There are various reasons Iâve used standard T1 modules in the past. Cost, availability, lack of meta modules of that type are some reasons. And if I were an industrialist it would also help that I could produce T1 anywhere with just some minerals and a blueprint even if Iâm unlucky with rat loot, which would save me trips to HS markets.
T1 medium shield extenders for example are usually significantly cheaper than either meta version, good for some sacrificial cyno ventures you buy in bulk.
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Haha, now Gerard is âtrollingâ too!
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âThere is no benefit to choosing a T1 over a meta module if the option exists.â
Better? Also, rats will always drop equipment that suits their faction. So armor faction rats will drop armor plates, and shield rats will drop shield extenders, as well as whatever weapon types they use.
So if the rats youâre killing arenât dropping stuff for you, it either means youâre using a ship type not supported by the region, or youâre fighting mission based rats which tend to be of the other factions.
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So youâre saying one cannot rely on locally sourced meta modules for every type of module you might need?
Thatâs exactly my point as to why T1 modules have a purpose. Those can be sourced locally.
I dunno what kind of help they give new players in BRAVE, but in my alliance we just laugh at noobs. No point in trying to explain the obvious to these people, even after you spell it out, they are gonna sit here and argue with you. These people have an ego that can never admit when they are wrong about anything.
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Iâve been fitting some mining ships lately.
Whenever a T2 mining laser upgrade doesnât work (due to not enough CPU) thereâs an option to equip a meta module or a T1 module instead with less CPU drain.
The meta module is about 30 million ISK in Jita:
The T1 module is about 30 thousand ISK.
This for me is a reason in various situations to pick T1 over meta. Not always, but T1 definitely has a purpose here as affordable alternative.
I generally have a lot of patience with new players and am happy to show why the thing they thought is wrong!
Hopefully theyâll learn. Some wonât though.
there are always exceptions, also dont know if in that case restrained = compact
Thats exactly what I meant with:
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âRestrainedâ means lower penalties.
Mining upgrade modules, besides high CPU costs, also have CPU penalties for mining equipment. The Restrained meta version has much lower CPU penalties.
The T1 version too by the way, but less so.
I think that has more to do with the sheer rarity of the module itself due to most NPCs being combat ships. To my understanding mining NPCs only show up in a few select combat missions, or as part of an NPC mining fleet. The latter of which with absolutely rip you to shreds with their response fleet if you touch them.
Thatâs possible. I never looked into where those modules were sourced, but it makes sense if it comes from mining NPC ships.
Besides the mining upgrade module I mentioned, meta medium shield extenders also are a lot more expensive than T1.
I think that in this case it may not be because of supply, but because of demand those modules are pretty popular to make cruiser fits fit. Even if supply is good, the demand is simply very high on meta shield extenders.
T1 modules have their use.
I donât think anyone is arguing against that. Only that there is no reason to choose a T1 over a meta if the option exists. Even if youâre using the âwrongâ ship type for your region you can stil buy most meta modules from Jita at a fraction of what it costs to make the T1 version.
