That’s BS and you know it. Complete crap. If that was the case, you’d be living in low sec with your untanked ships that you paid over 1 billion ISK for. I’m calling you out on your ■■■■■■■■ statement.
Especially since you recently told me that you lost a 300,000 EHP Eagle.
It isn’t. Such ships have been ganked in the past. Even 1M+ Rattles and NavyScorps have been successfully ganked. It is very unlikely, yes, because the effort is not to be underestimated and you are not a very attractive target with such a high amount of eHP. But if they want, they can and will do it.
Lol…I know the difference between risk and stupidity. Only an idiot loses ships just for the sake of it.
The 300K EHP Eagle was lost in a fleet battle…targeted by 42 enemy ships after logi had all but been destroyed and I was stuck in a warp bubble. The ADC damage control only lasts 10 seconds…then it goes from 300K EHP back down to 70K or so.
That char has 210 kills, all in lowsec…and 1 loss.
Wow… You’re seriously broken in this game. I’ve stated before that I will always do anything I can to protect my ships. “That ship has been destroyed before” so?
Won’t stop me from buying it and protecting as best I can. You’re broken! You give up too easily. I don’t know how to give up. Man, you gankers have trolled me relentlessly anytime I mention protecting my investments. “Miners should try harder to survive!” I do and you quickly say, “That’s been beaten before and shouldn’t be tried ever! Just keep your ships easy to explode!”
Are you 5 years old? All of you? Why do you troll so hard like children throwing temper tantrums?
Eve is about deterrence. If you all are too simple minded to understand that, I can’t help you. I’ve never seen so many children in this game! If I’d been this good at fitting ships 12 years ago (I think 13 now?), I wouldn’t have quit in frustration. But more than that, if I’d told the gankers about how I fit my ships, they’d congratulate me on not being an idiot! The people back then were just better. Ganking happened way more often too. The people were just nicer about it. Here, it’s a bunch of children too afraid of Low and Null sec while complaining about people like me being too hard to destroy.
I know my ship can be ganked, if they can convince 40 of their friends to come help out. Like James Kirk said in that first of the new Star Trek movies when he was outnumbered 5 to one:
“Then why don’t you go get a few of your friends and then it’ll be a fair fight.”
It’s not about winning. It’s about making the enemy work for it. Do you honestly back down in a fight you know you can’t win? Just stand there and take the punches without even trying to defend yourself? I don’t. I’ll take one of them to the ground with me!
I don’t know how to have that attitude you have. Just give up? Never.
Deliberate on my part. No free intel for this, they have to find out the hard way…, be it going to gank them or working it out from the action taken by the player in taking one of them out.
That is something we agree on. I removed the part I did not agree with.
You end up falling into a sort of gambler’s fallacy of let’s just spend a little more, and a little more, and you will hit the jackpot. Me ? I’ll happily mine in a Venture for the heck of it, or transport small but expensive stuff in a Sunesis or in my quite nifty 300K EHP Brutix. I transported my entire stock of modules and other goodies to Jita…billions worth…a few weeks back, right through Uedama. Fun times !
Spend a little more? My two freighters are only usung T2 mods. What about that has you all freaked out? You’re afraid of T2 mods? I could get my freighters much higher if I chose to.
Fitting my ships with civilian mods like you do is just not my style.
I think you are more obsessed with the gankers than they are with you. It’s like every 5 minutes we get this ’ Hey ! Here I am in my gazillion EHP freighter…nanananana !’ as if you were the only gank target in EVE. They are actually more likely to gank me in my Tengu…as I get around way more than you do. I very much doubt Aiko is sitting there devising some cunning plan to gank you…or even cares. Gankers are opportunists…I doubt they are losing sleep over your megaEHP ship.
Well look what it started. That one post caused all of you to prove you dont know a damn thing about this game.
Ah…that would explain how I have 3 Trillion ISK in destruction ( 1510 kills ) vs your zero.
The current ganking mechanics are just the other side of the care bear coin.
As a high-sec missioner, I’d love the opportunity for more meaningful engagements. Most of us are tired of being pigeonholed into this repetitive loop we can’t escape. Aren’t the rest of you?
There’s no mechanic in place to really be a pirate or a white knight.
You honestly thought freighters peaked at 300,000 ehp. They START that high empty!
How would highsec piracy be even possible with this? The best you can do is to kill autopilot ships with no tank like shuttles. Which by many of the antigank crowd is pure griefing.
You keep saying how you want ganking to be rebalanced, but I have not seen any suggestion from you which wouldn’t be brutal nerf to ganking that limits the ganking heavily or completely stops it.
Please stop claiming you aren’t against ganking, because your suggestions proves otherwise.
What you suggest is not rebalance. It is nerf, nerf, nerf. Rebalance would be what I posted somewhere above with travel. Immunity when docking, but higher vulnerability when travelling between systems. You take some you give some, but you only take a lot.
BTW, one cannot cloak if his security status exceeds the limit of the system. Currently, those with low security status are already subject to what you wrote. Not able to stay longer than few seconds anywhere including deadspace behind acceleration gate (which is nonsense), and not just because of the players, but because of invulnerable NPCs that warp disrupts, ECM, drain and do % damage that cannot be tanked longer than few seconds. They can’t cloak either, they can’t dock even in their own citadels and they dont receive tether even from their own citadels. Therefore all you can do with such toons is to kill autopilots. Some players manages to use criminal toons to gank miners, but it is very annoying to do and you need to stage from some lowsec to retreat into if the target warps away. Or you need to keep flying around the system between 2 bookmarks without even few seconds break until you manage to find other target. Hence only about 2 players in EVE does this. And the number of players who shoots shuttles and frigates + their pod autopilotting with criminal toon is about 5 and I am one of them. From all players in EVE.
If the penalties of -5 to -10 criminals will apply to anyone who does 10 ganks a week then the amount of gankers will go from perhaps 100 (and I am generous) to 10 very soon. It basically kils ganking completely.
Freighters are boring. I generally don’t learn up on boring things.
I think Gankers should be offered a legal way to Gank in hisec. Players can pay them to gank a ship+fit worth at least 100 mill. To avoid exploit the clients should pay double the price of a targeted ship.
And the mining Permits should be now included in the Game. Gankers alliance may rent a mining belt in HS. Any miners that want to mine in that belt may choose to buy a permit from them if not the Gankers are free to Gank them.
Gankers have a legal way - it’s just kind of monotonous.
Legal way in Highsec where Concord don’t attack them and their security status won’t be affected. the only one that can be affected is the one who hired them.
I am not a ganker. I am a realist. I just tell you, relying on tank is good and I can only advise it. But if you get sloppy and overestimate yourself, it will still lead to a killmail sooner or later. Tank increases your chances, by making a gank high effort and very costly. It doesn’t give you invincibility. Not hard to understand that and I don’t get why you feel offended by such a statement.
He said PVP’rs don’t know how to play the game.
You are pretty emotional over a constructive debate. Of course the penalties would have to be changed. So Pirates could use cloaks, could stay longer than a few seconds, could save their ships.
My goal is to get away from the 20-second kill-windows in ships as cheap as possible for the job towards a challenging and rewarding HS piracy concept, that actually allow Pirates to fly all those Pirate ships like Cynabals, Machas, Vigilants etc..
Yes, the easy times for Ganking like now, sitting somewhere for hours, scanning and oneshotting someone once your calculation show that you will make profit would be gone. And good riddance. An age of active hunts and skilled engagements would be possible. Maybe thats not for you, but one can’t satisfy everyone.