CCP should just ask Vily. I’m sure he speaks for everyone.
I would be teasing if I said ‘he tries to’ but he is a perfect gentleman and a scholar when we both have a point to make on the CSM
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So how does it work? He proposes that all new players should start as nullsec slaves - only winning their freedom after they have performed enough mandatory CTAs and mining ops. Then you propose something different, some improvement to the NPE no doubt. Then Brisc takes all the credit when the Red Dot toggle-off is added?
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Gasp.
/me picks up batphone . . . yes? security has Been compromised. Right, right, keep stalling him until the volcano is fully warmed up? Got it.
Pleas Xeux, do go on . . .
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How many systems in eve online depend on their security status ?
Round up numbers :
High sec: 1000
Low sec: 1000
0.0: 3500
W-space: 3500
There is 10 seat for player presantatives
In Presentative Democracy amount of people you are presenting and ratio of that amount to general population is very important aspect… so everybody from different regions and different citioes or clans has right to be presented …
According to current CSM distribution: % 70 percent of representatives are standing up for NULL sec… Moreover, 2 of them coming from ONE specific clan…This is a BROKEN system. which we all know how much they are organized disciplined and ordered to put emphasis on that type of thing… And those people are claiming that they are the voice of all New Eden … which honestly nobody believes that lies in a game like personal gains and profit and power struggle mean a lot…
CCP knows how many players active in every security area average everyday… SO they can easily make a limitations like null sec can bring only 4 presentative… 2 from low sec 2 from high sec… 2-2 from wormhole space…
OR 4 slot for NULL nominees … Those presentatives are the names very out and well known so its easy to spot if brisc rubal set yourself nominee for high sec 
Current CSM election system nothing else than be CORRUPTED… and very LOW presentation value …
And this hurts the peoples justice and fairness feeling and HURTS the CCPs image more than anything else… and puts CCP into position like they do listen to Nul Blocks more than everyone else…
And This distributions style officially legitimise and reflects and supports these tendancies
CCP never come over or convince anyone else from high sec or WH that they had been heard and their voice is up there…
There is players who live in wormholes… or a lot of high sec players largely also new players… Those people may be doesnt organised yes… There is so many players which doesnt like to be a part of big crowd… that doesn’t mean their opinions are worthless or be in shadow or voiced by the Null representatives …
this makes a very very bad image for CCP… that is something needs to be sorted… and i do invite community team to consider to look at general systematic and criterias about selection styles of presentative numbers according to player amount area of cticity and numbers at the area actively playing daily bases … and make some QUOTAS for each section and limit … this will give people chance to carry their names to represatative table
@CCP_Convict @CCP_Dopamine @CCP_Fleebix please consider this idea… This greatly helps your image , and helps to breake some prejudiges
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Wormholers have had their representatives in the CSM for many years, sometimes even more than one and we’ve had our voices heard and ideas have been implemented. Don’t try to represent the opinion of parts of the player - base you don’t know anything about.
Here we go again.
The system isn’t broken. This is an election. The most organized groups and the most popular players will be the ones who get elected. The decision is in the player’s hands. There’s nothing “corrupt” about elections working the way that elections work, where who turns out and how they vote makes the difference.
You want 10 people who actively play the game, regardless of where they play it. The point of the CSM isn’t to provide representation to groups or areas of space. It’s for those player representatives to represent the entire game, because that’s the electorate who chooses them. Trying to split things off into “this person represents this area” is next to impossible, and would turn the community team into an elections administration office, which it doesn’t need to be. There is no easy way to decide who represents what kind of player - that’s why it’s up to the voters to decide what each person actually represents.
This is one of the most diverse CSMs we have had in a long timne. I think it would be more fair to characterize the csm this way:
Brisc - Nullsec, generalist and line member, player communications and sentiment, Streamer community, most accessible
Innominate - Nullsec, third-party tools and development, CSM institutional memory
Kenneth Feld - Nullsec, industry and logistics, market trading, long-term relationships with variety of developers
Merkelchen - Nullsec, logistics, new player experience and training, FC (CEO of one the largest new players groups)
Maria Taylor - Nullsec, third-party tools, Chinese community representative
Phantomite - Lowsec, Faction warfare, small-gang and mid-level alliance
Mike Azariah - Highsec, new player experience and training, CSM institutional memory, community relations, PvE
Gobbins - Nullsec, CEO of second largest alliance in the game, new player experience, FC, theory crafter, Alliance Tournament
Torvald - Lowsec, Abyssal PvE, Streamer community
Vily - Nullsec, senior FC, player market trading, small-gang, Alliance and corp leadership
That is a pretty well rounded group of players.
The only gap there is wormholes, which was the result of a schism in the WH community this campaign with a wormholer being the #11 vote getter.
The only way to do what you want is for CCP to flat out pick who should be serving, which destroys the “player chosen” part of what they were going for.
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More like:
Brisc - Mostly patient nullseccer that tells people how it is.
Mike - Quiet guy that represents highsec/lowsec, especially new players.
Everybody else - bunch of cronies that represent special interests.
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You just talking to yourself and I’m not even sure you believe what are you saying there lol …You are officially present yourself how broken it is .
lol
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And you ignore everything else I said. You’re hopeless.
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everything you told was clean proof of i was on the point… And its true … get on with it…
seriously …
Also bring some quota doesn’t put any weight on CCP s shoulders … straight! It just gives more chance to people who would like to stand up and want to be voice of their game style… The way we are playing this game effect our perspectives… What we are experiencing in our area of activity and our unique struggles reflected by first hand by those players… there is distinct differences and life styles between those areas in eve online.
People keep imagining the CSM as being in the driver’s seat of EVE development direction, when a better analogy is that they are the cranky mother in law in the back seat complaining about how the driving is so bad. Both Brisc and Mike are completely responsive to any form of communication with them and I know from first hand experience that Brisc has brought forth at meetings concerns and ideas that both I and others had asked him about.
While I would like a better representation on the CSM from a more diverse player style point of view, I wouldn’t want knowledgeable and fair representatives being replaced with merely popular ones. If anyone has a plan for establishing a more equal representation on the CSM that still encompasses the knowledge and commitment the current group has, I would definately be interested. Quotas don’t guarantee effectiveness. Popularity of an idea doesn’t ensure good or fair gameplay.
Remember: Cranky mother in law in the backseat, not the driver.
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Legal fact check.
This is false. The final decision is in CCP’s hands. They will & have removed ballots for candidates they did not wish to work with. EULA makes this fact very clear, to say the CSM election is in the players hands is false & player decisions/voting is in no way binding.
If CCP wish to make the election results binding I am free to assist.
False. The original point of the CSM was to restore confidence in CCP as a developer & game moderator of eve online.
Hi all, I’ll be fact checking more candidates in the run up to 2021 CSM election.
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Don’t fact check Komi Valentine too hard. She speaks from the heart.
This is the worst kind of pedantry. The decision as to who gets elected from among the candidates that CCP clears to run is with the players. Just as in real life, where the decision as to who gets elected from among the candidates who meet all the qualifications and get on the ballot, rests with the voters.
The idea that the purpose behind something can’t change, when the thing itself has changed multiple times, is one of the reasons why “fact checking” is stupid.
Yes, when it started, the CSM was designed to restore confidence in CCP after the T20 incident by letting the players behind the scenes to keep CCP accountable. That purpose has long since fallen by the wayside. Since then, it has evolved in a feedback group.
If you’re going to troll every CSM candidate with this kind of pedantry, don’t expect to be around very long.
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Let’s troll @Archer_en_Tilavine next!
Alas, I’m not readily available for trolling. I’ll miss trolling and being trolled, though 
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I like you better without the mask.
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I think numbers are down due the changes made this last 6 months, with the changes made to bounties it is forcing people apart. I will no longer rat in a depleted system, I don’t super / carrier rat as I don’t like it. So when I move to a smaller system with no Forts and a low number of anomalies. I am play with a smaller number of people in system if anyone else at all. It is just breaking down social groups. Just logged of tonight as I couldn’t be bothered to play. The whole social group thing is no longer really there, I have noticed a lot more people are not even logging on any more. Only real scarcity being generated by CCP right now is play time, many people are of playing a different game.
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Triglavians defiantly have a negative effect on NPE imo as are forward operating base rats basically NPC content in high sec should not carry a greater risk than any other part of space(can you imagine if trig rats suddenly spawned on your nullsec moon pop?) or if it does then it should be opt in not getting ganked on a gate or belt by trig/FOB rats with everything you have worked for in your first few weeks of play, add to that that they rats are the only rats in new eden that will pod you, possibly excluding incursion rats and thank god they had the common sense not to put those rats on gates in high sec as well.
I get that they need people to lose ships to drive the economy but they should use the lure of reward to pull people into more dangerous space and not these sort of random NPC’s to force people out of hgihsec.
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