Fraternity Ends Renting

Big news:

For many years the nature of EVE has made renting a disproportional profitable way of making ISK to fund alliances, however it is no secret that I personally am not a fan of it.

I am not going to wax lyrical about the philosophy as to why however it is with great pleasure I can announce that Fraternity will be bringing an end to our renting.

We will imminently start the process of winding up our rental operations.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1orb2eb/fraternity_ends_renting/

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So what happens to those currently renting a system or 2?

Will they now be left defenceless and it will turn into a free for all with mass evictions?

If so it seems to be a very harsh way of treating corps who have put billions into the coffers, or will they now join Fraternity?

Good questions. No idea but seems counter-productive to just plunder them as if they become part of the alliance is much more beneficial to both sides.

Though considering the nature of nullsec* it is not impossible they go with the FFA plundering route but with the option to merge into the alliance, thus using this as “encouragement” by giving a deadline to leave, join or perish.

*completely unrelated image:

:wink:

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I would guess they no longer get private access to the systems they were renting and get the choice to either join the coalition of Fraternity as a normal member, or leave their space.

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I’m not against this. Hopefully it frees up space for smaller alliances to get a foothold in null more easily, but that’s questionable.

does that mean they will increase botting ?

I won’t. If they can rent it out that means it’s inside their reach and under their control.

It won’t. Frat will just keep that space, either for member alliances or for themselves.

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Currently open space (or soon to be) Dronelands, Cloud ring/PB, Provi, and Delve/Querious as long as you are block free and can keep the sov from other locals.

They are real money traders renting will just move to real life cash for that type

Former PH lackeys invited into FRAT quarters… news at 11… :smiling_face_with_horns:

I love how the ethics of alliances wax and wane depending on which way the wind is blowing. It’s like ‘ we’ve been doing XYZ for years…but all of a sudden we’re against it ‘. The same happened with the cabal running the TTT. After years of nobody rocking the boat, it was all of a sudden deemed to be wrong by part of the cabal. Hell yeah….let’s fight the good fight, after trillions have been made.

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To be fair, part of that was to just get rid of keepstar in HS by CCP and Imperium decided that the TTT should go too so that there were not legacy XL structures in HS

Any of the above or none. At this point I am sure that each alliance is working out its own plan.

The Imperium/Goonswarm have always been against renting. Until now Asher was willing to let things slide. Had the 'Horde won and really stomped on the Goonswarm. We would have had renting as institutional device for Alliances and Coalitions. What happened was both unexpected and how Nullsec has always worked out things in the end. Unexpected because no one thought that Pandemic Horde was a paper tiger. That had been coasting on past glories for years. Gobbins was good as long as everyone bought into the status quo.

That fell apart the moment The Goonswarm declared war. The moment that the first ship left the first structure this what was always going to happen. The age of renting has come to an end… For now..

But.. But nothing is ever permanent. And change does ocurre. A changing of the guard, a different leader, a new Alliance/Coalition or an old one that can challenge the status quo. It will happen as it has now and in the past. Count on it.

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true words

Most of the big alliances are resting on past glories, and trillions sucked in from this or that. I know from the corps I have been in that it is not at all easy for alliances to get a foothold and maintain it in null. I suspect it is harder now than ever precisely because the larger alliances are sitting on trillions worth of ISK and ships. For newer alliances it is like joining a game of Monopoly half way through, in which all the properties already have hotels on them. If this gets shaken up…it can only be a good thing.

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Eventually the isk will run out.. and renting will start back up or extortion..

If ISK is running out in null, we have bigger issues

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