That was a very limited study and what percentage of the people even gave a reason for quitting?
Math requires multiple variables.
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Itâs an old problem. High sec security needs a rework. CCP has to know this, but clearly theyâre either not finished with it yet or they just donât care.
Agreed.
Itâs clear to me that CCP is slowly phasing it out.
âŚIn 2015, so itâs 10 years out of date. How prevalent were 40+ fleets of multi-boxing catalysts back then? I would argue that thereâs a good chance that this study from CCP doesnât accurately reflect the current player base.
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To be honest, it was to be Robin Hoods Merry men taking on the null blks. Rob (wd) from the rich and give to the poor. (us) 
But with the rule changes and the appearance of hauling corps, I guess that point is mote now.
Experience. The best tool to win EVE and the hardest to acquire. I just want to see an EVE 2.0.
Now your smoking pot! 
Iâll give her this, she is a smooth criminal.
Minmatar ships⌠
I have to agree on that one.
But at least their smart enough to plan for that loss. Lazy miners?
Sadly, that seems to be the case?
Ah yes⌠If the miners paid attn, would there be a problem then? Why is it so hard to look in a mirror? Shame you missed the can you change your mind thd.
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Jason Kusion was multiboxing ~26 accounts back then already. He was possibly the only one with that many at that time. (There was also Bob the ### in Solitude with at least 10 in that year already). Nobody has 40+ and if they do they are not using them all for ganking. Multiboxing went rampage because:
- CCP lifted (soft) account restrictions, no longer you needed different email which made it far more convenient
- CCP started supporting it - the account page on their web now supports multiple accounts by same email; that clearly tell us all that this is no longer some grey zone but absolutely legal and became meta (because no longer you are dependant on other player being online and no longer you need to share loot)
- CCP started nerfing ganking, each such nerf caused portion of players to quit, also better games appeared like Albion and some gankers quit simply because they found something better to do with their free time. The remaining gankers needed to replace these personnel loses to be able to gank further.
- CCP started buffing our targets. Mining ships suddenly became tankier than battleships which means we need more shooters. And because previous and upcoming nerfs we could not find actual players to do it ourselves anymore.
All this led to current state where pretty much every ganker is multiboxing 6-20 acounts and ganks âaloneâ.
However, if the players are quitting because of this (and you have no proof for that), they are not quitting because of ganking, but because multiboxing itself. When I was new player I was disgust by the fact that Jason Kusion ganked me with what was apparently 15 of his own alts that he multiboxed. However, then I started actually looking into space and these mining multibox fleets which were already there in 2016 and they disgust me just as much. I didnât quit though, but I agree that this sight might be too much for some players.
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I was waiting for the âthis is an old reportâ response. How many nerfs to ganking have there been in those 10 years? By appeasing the whiners who plead to Daddy CCP to protect them rather than taking action in-game themselves, CCP have driven a lot of gankers from the game. Those that remain are forced to multibox with more accounts to overcome the increased base tank on freighters and miners.
Itâs a win-win for CCP because gankers have to pay for more omega accounts, and miners increase their multibox fleets because they think CCP have âfinally cured the ganking problemâ.
How prevalent are 40+ gank fleets now? Get serious.
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âLimited studyâ of 80,000 actual people. TQ currently has 25k âplayersâ as I write this - thatâs maybe 10k actual people.
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And for whoever doesnât believe EVE has 80000 players to be asked: please donât confuse concurrent players with total EVE players. Even if TQ âonlyâ has 25k concurrent players at the moment, there are far more EVE players than that, even if some are counted multiple times due to multiboxing.
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Now I know why you sound so bitter recentlyâŚ
You fell for the dark side. You were angry and hateful in face of changes you disliked and hoped that more power would suit your needs and could fulfill your desires. And CCP gladly offered it, seeking their own benefits. And you fell for the trap.
Now you are bound. By false expectations and the consequences of your choice. Infected by the massmultibox disease, it will not get any better. It will not feel better. Ever.
Let go. I have seen so many going that path, and it hasnât ended well with a single one of them. I feel sorry for you, I can understand it even. But seriously, turn back while you can.
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âŚand another one bites the dust 
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Iâll be just a neutral observer now on this PVP issues. . Iâm fine and content focusing on Trade and Industry gameplay. 
Is there a reason you (and others) keep perpetuating this myth? Void ammunition was buffed⌠the Navy Exequror was buffed⌠Uedama was buffed (and became even more of a chokepoint). Marauders were nerfed then nerfed again (a popular target of gankers).
This is on top of CCP relaxing the email requirements and numerous other âunder the hoodâ improvements to improve performance. The only ânerfsâ that I can think of were a) removing red safety from Alphas (which was a clear exploit and abused to no end) and b) the Surgical Strike rollback and Navy Exequror nerf in Legion.
Gankers can still use stargates and stations in a pod and the bounty system was removed entirely.
Ganking is like cancer. It starts small, feeds off healthy gameplay, spreads when left unchecked, and thrives in environments with no real resistance. CCPâs current treatment plan? Watching and hoping the tumor behaves itself.
you do know is have been this way since the beta ?
Yeah, and cigarettes have been around since the 1800s, that doesnât mean we shouldnât talk about lung cancer.
Longevity isnât the same as legitimacy.
You know they do have internet in Romania right? Itâs perfectly possible for players to be in Transylvania.
Americans think every other country is mud huts.
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Possible? Sure.
Likely? No.
*Pretending to be a VampireâŚ
Final Answer
Roughly 250 to 420 active EVE Online players are likely from Transylvaniaâbased on 0.63% Romanian share and Transylvaniaâs population proportion.
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Oh-oh, yes, heâs the great pretender
Pretending that heâs doing well
His need is such, he pretends too much
Heâs lonely, but no one can tell
Oh-oh, yes, heâs the great pretender
Adrift in a world of his own
He played the game but to his real shame
Iâve left him to grieve all alone
Too real is this feeling of make-believe
Too real when he feels that his miner heart canât conceal
(Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh)
Yes, heâs the great pretender
Just laughinâ and gay like a clown
He seems to be what heâs not, you see
Heâs wearing his heart like a crown
Pretending that Iâm still around
Too real is this feeling of make-believe
Too real when he feels what his heart canât conceal
(Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh)
Yes, heâs the great pretender
Just laughinâ and gay like a clown
He seems to be what wat heâs not not, you see
Heâs wearing his heart like a crown
Pretending that Iâm still around
(Still around)
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