Heathens and heretics

To you, that may be true, to most of the people who already worship and respect your god, that may be true. But if you ask say, the people in Sansha’s Nation, they would say Sansha is the only person worthy of worship and respect. Me personally, I find many people worthy of respect, though for different reasons and to different degrees, but there is nobody I personally view as worthy of worship, least of all your petty, insecure god who demands worship.

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My thinking is, it is technically not oblivion but conversion and re-cycling. But nothing religious about it. I have been raised far away from all that metaphysical stuff, I am only observing the effects without putting much faith into anything I dont know.

All those religious people wearing robes, praising something, they look silly to me.

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When I experience the true death, I will go to the [Translator: Hall, gathering place, Clan Home} of my ancestors. If my actions in life are deemed worthy by them, then I shall have a place of honor where I will hunt and feast and prepare for the great battle that is to come at the end of the existence.

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Definitely very interesting.

Knowing this viewpoint certainly helps me understand many things better.

It is obviously a viewpoint I disagree with extremely strongly, of course, but it is quite interesting to learn about it.

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I’m in the “the Amarr god is a spirit” camp simply because if there are spirits on Matar, why not on Amarr? But I don’t think the Amarr god is some kind of primordial evil spirit.

I think the Amarr god was corrupted by the Amarr people.

There’s a legend I was once told of a shaman who was taken by slavers. As he naturally resented the injustice, he sought out a spirit of justice, who became his friend and helped the shaman. But over the years, as the shaman saw his kin tormented by the Amarr, the spirit of justice was corrupted into a spirit of vengeance. And when he had an opportunity to lead his kin to freedom, the spirit compelled him to instead strike back at his oppressors. He slaughtered the slaveholder and his entire family… and in retaliation, the shaman and his kin were massacred.

I think where the Amarr went wrong, on a spiritual level, was denying that other spirits exist, and elevating their spirit to the status of a god with authority over all of creation. The native faiths of the Udorians, the Ni-Kunni, the Khanid, and all others the Amarr subjugated, have been effectively wiped out.

Of course, this is not to say that the Amarr cannot be saved. There is still good in them. The events of the past two centuries - their defeat at the hands of the Jovians and the subsequent Minmatar Rebellion - have forced the Amarr to accept that they are not unstoppable. And slowly, very slowly, they have begun to change for the better.

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Interestingly we (The Aloga) have a similar belief, just inverted. Rather than the people corrupting the spirit, we hold that the Amarrian spirit corrupted the people. My understanding of Amarrian history is that Athra (the true name of their planet) was once full of differnet peoples and different spirit’s, so it stands to reason the Amarr of their time were well aware of them.

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