I vote to give them a private forum.
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I vote to give you and your one-liners your own private forum.
Iâve told you 3 times now that they are public.
Do your own homework or send me isk to do it for you.
Its astounding that you even engaged in this discussion without knowing they exist, let alone having read them, which you did neither of.
Check the stats.
This is isnt about me. Its about EVE.
Nothing harms players/EVE/CCP more than botting/RMT/account hijacking.
They are illegal for very good reasons.
These are not contradictory.
CCP can fight bots better, which effects everyone in EVE, whilst addressing ship balance which only effects those that use those ships.
CCP can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Ecm nerf > botting
No one cares about bots anyway
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They are the public Security Team reports.
You can find and read them yourself.
They are not âmade upâ.
I only accuse botters of botting, not everyone.
Im only mad at botters, and those that cover for them.
Q3 Security Team report:
Fine.
You think there isnt.
I think there is.
What constitutes an epidemic, as magnitude/frequency of instance, varies. Menningococcal infection rate of over 15 per 100k, in two weeks, is classified an epidemic.
Report shows 3.3k botters banned, so average of 1.1k per month. Also shutting down 115 RMT groups on social media.
The rate is stable across all quarterly reports.
From this you can deduce either that Security Team is working at max capacity and cant handle more, or that there are only ~1.1k botters to ban per month.
The former is far more likely than the latter.
Yes.
But yours was uninformed, as you had never read the Security Team reports, or even knew of their existence.
Ive consistently said they ban that amount on average per month, and that is concretely supported by the stats you still have not read.
The report is issued quarterly, not monthly, thus a monthly average can be calculated by dividing the total of 3 months.
Investigating botting, RMT and account hijacking, each depletes time/resources individually, as time not spent investigating another or further incidences of each.
You dont seem to grasp that time/resources are finite.
That the report figures remain largely the same per quarter, shows that the team is going full out with what it has and cant exceed this current result without additional resource investment.
They show the 2 staff team are working as hard and fast as is humanly possible with what resources/time they have at their disposal currently.
Or are you suggesting they are slacking on the job?
Thats a lie.
You didnt know they existed, and had not read them.
Even if you are speaking the truth, you claimed my figures where âmade-upâ, which you must then have known to be a false claim.
IE: You are dishonest in either case.
The monthly average over all available Security Team reports for bot bans, is a steady 1-1.1k/month.
You can do the math yourself.
That is a false claim.
If I omitted the term âaverageâ at any point, it was an unintentional oversight.
Its a calculated average, as dividing the total bans over a quarter. Unless you think they made ALL the bans just the night before the quarterly report is issued.
An annual average can also be calculated, once these reports have run over several years.
You are also still failing to understand, deliberately or not, that botting, RMT and account hijacking all feed into each other.
Botting provides the isk/mats/PLEX to RMT.
Account hijacking provides accounts to botters and isk/mats/PLEX to RMT.
RMT provides reward for botting and account hijacking.
CCP wrecked a mindboggling 115 RMT groups in the last quarter alone, and they havent got started proper on Ebay/Amazon yet. Where/how do you think these groups got their products to sell via RMT?
If you dont think that shows an epidemic in EVE, I can only conclude you are in cahoots with botters/RMT/account hijackers, and trying to bury the issue and this thread.
I know the average remains largely constant, quarter after quarter.
That means either there arent more to ban, or team is at max capacity.
So you admit to lying and making false claims about me, deliberately.
That is a â â â â move, man, and incredibly disrespectful.
They are doing exactly that.
Ofc they are working at 100%.
Anything less, would be slacking.
They need more investment from CCP in staff/resources to do more and keep ahead of illegal player actions that harm us all, the game, and CCPs bottomline.
You can speculate on that, but the numbers are largely consistent, quarter after quarter.
You deliberately made false claims.
You are the the one that dodged the existence of the reports, not I.
You flat out lied.
You are a liar.
From a self-confessed liar, that means nothing.
Do you think you have earned respect by lying?
Its the inverse.
Youve earned disrespect by your own actions/choices.
All employees of all companies are expected to work at 100% efficiency. You dont get hired to only do 50% of the job.
Lets say CCP hired a third staff member to the Security Team.
Do you not agree that would increase the amount of illegal activities the team can address per quarter?
Do you also not agree, that dropping the Security Team to 1 member, instead of 2, would atleast half its output?
So what?
That then ofc affected the resources put toward engaging botting, and are implicit in the average for that quarter.
You admit to lying and dishonesty.
Im a 37yr old man, not a child.
The âtacticâ you used is one used only by the dishonest. Thats on you. Not me.
You may not care that you lied.
But that earns you only disrespect.
I have not lied.
All employers expect a 100% effort.
I, as a nurse in training, also cannot do just 50% of the job Im employed to.
Presenting that adding more staff would increase output, and decreasing staff would reduce it, is a matter of objective fact.
So what efficiency % is the 2 staff Security Team working at then?
What evidence do you have for your %?
I didnt deliberately lie and make false claims.
You did.
As a registered nurse in training, I am expected to deliver 100%. Any less would jeopardize the well-being of my patients, and lead to remedial action on my part.
You can claim that adding a third staff member to Security Team would not increase output, and removing one from the existing 2 member staff would not reduce output, all you want.
Atm, there are two staff members policing a 30k/day PCU.
Your claims are ridiculously false and just again shows how dishonest you are.
You will lie and lie, over and over, to hide your complicity.
Ofc you dont.
Instead you just pretend to and cant answer when asked.
There is everything wrong with making false claims, especially deliberately.
Making a false claim is, de facto, wrong.
Its called lying.
Yes. 100%, everyday and every second.
More staff is more time/resources.
Less staff is less time/resources.
My points are already supported, proven and explained in this thread.
You, however, have only lied and trolled.
Again with the lies and bullcrap.
I said I deliver 100%, all day, everyday, yet you claim thats not good enough for you.
Would you prefer a nurse that only does 50%?
I can tell you, flat out, those exist as well.
They lie and cut corners, much like you here.
Lying is always wrong, and always falsifying the truth.
The Security Teams job is mundane.
My stats are correct.
My estimate of 10k botters over a month I cant prove, but all others are a matter of fact as shown by the Security Team quartely updates that ypu either didnt know about/had read, or lying to the contrary.
Its clear @Lucas_Kell had a vested interest in botting/RMT/account hijacking.
Only a criminal would go to such extents to obfuscate the extent of the problem, and their own complicity in that, by lying, as he has admitted he has.
Criminals will habitually lie and falsely protest their innocence, by any means, till the end, and that is what he is doing here.
He thinks even his admitted lying is justified.
You did that, not I.
I have not lied, even once.
You have, by your own admission.
Nor have I insulted the Security Team by stating they are operating at 100% capacity with limited resources. You insulted them by claiming they do not.
What job isnt mundane?
You are again conflating/lying.
You made the claim they are not operating at 100% tens of posts before you ever mentioned the term âmundaneâ.
Ive said they are working 100% since the start.
Check the dictionary definition of âmundaneâ.
The word doesnt mean what you think it does.
Registered Nurse license a is 3.5years Bachelor Degree, with several work practices in the field.
The requirements and obligations are enormous. If you dont work at 100% all the time, someone can be permanently harmed or even die.
You claiming the CCP Security Team is not operating at 100% is insulting and accusing them of slacking on the job.
Ive maintained throughout that they are operating at 100%, and cannot do more without more resource allocation. They are doing their best, yet the same average of bans keeps popping up, quarter after quarter.
I seriously question the motives of anyone that argues CCP should not add a third member to the Security Team.
That moment when you compare a nurse to a person looking at reports of bots⌠smh
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Im both.