Soooooo…you shut down the gambling sites because that kind of activity is illegal in some countries (not counting any RMT) just to come in 2 years later and put it in-game yourself, with the ability to spend real money on it?
Honestly just sounds like CCP saw an opportunity to make money and screwed over the people that had created that content. Seems like some grade-A bullcrap, and really badly reflects on CCP and their leadership.
The fact people sell and buy these items for $$$ proves you can sell them.
Something has the real $$$ based on what people will pay for them either from CCP or other players.
That is the free market and capitalism.
You seem to live in a fantasy world where reality is defined by what a company’s rules say.
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on the forums.
Yeah, we’re gonna hold CCP liable for breaking gambling laws because their players do something that’s itself against the rules. That’s totally how it works. Looks like your law license is paying off, @sixoffive.
Lol what makes you think I’m a new player? And even if I was, my opinion is as valuable as yours.
It’s not gambling 
I rather the profits go to CCP than to a third party, I benefit if CCP makes more money, I don’t if some third party does.
Yeah, that’s kind of the whole point. It’s not.
Nice try, but no it’s not. lmao
We are because they make a system knowing how it is used.
They also make real $$$ off it by selling the cores for every gamble on their website so have a financial interest in facilitating it.
Those are called microtransactions.
It’s not gambling.
They set up a gambling system in their game and charge real life $$$ for every in game gamble.
They are making money off gambling.
No they don’t. Please take a moment to learn what you’re talking about before you reveal to the world that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
No, it’s just standard microtransactions.
The cores only originate directly from CCP for $$$. The cores are used to create every gamble.
They make $$$ from every in game gamble.
Give me the definition of “Gambling” because you don’t seem to know what it is.
Offering up something with a chance of getting something and a chance of getting nothing.
Which is exactly what these “raffles” are.
Facts.
Lmao. So by that definition, what isn’t gambling.
You just described Magic The Gathering night at countless shops around the world.
CCP is still not a gambling hall, not a casino, not even on par with nickel poker night in the basement.
I know that won’t change your mind, but it’s still worth deconstructing the issue.
Yes, it’s “gambling”. And it’s no more harmful than any other digital gambling simulation. CCP bringing the raffle in game will draw audience away from illicit EVE gambling sites. People already gamble real money on EVE. They just don’t do it in the open with in game credits anymore.
The fact that you can access the raffle feature with zero cash investment makes that cash shop argument a real stretch. This is also another feature to combat RMT related to illicit EVE gambling.
The vice argument is also a hard stretch. EVE has murder, theft, and drug use as core features. Prohibition plain old doesn’t work. It just drives things underground. People are gambling real money on EVE digital assets right now. You just won’t see it broadcast on CCP owned comms.
Just like back at the dawn of PLEX, this isn’t just a cash grab, CCP is creating a SAFE channel for an activity that is exposing their customers to dangerous places on the Internet.
Kinda is, and it seems CCP agrees more with my opinion, than with yours.
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No, because MTG is not a game of chance. It has a random element in that cards are drawn from a shuffled deck but it is primarily a game of skill and the players are not betting against each other. The EVE lottery, on the other hand, is strictly a game of chance: you roll the dice and see which bet wins, no skill or player decisions involved at any point.
And it’s no more harmful than any other digital gambling simulation.
Except that, unlike a mere “simulation”, EVE’s system involves the ability to pay real-world money to gamble.
The fact that you can access the raffle feature with zero cash investment makes that cash shop argument a real stretch.
But, again, nobody cares about people with a healthy level of gambling interest paying some fake money to an in-game lottery. The issue is the potential for gambling addicts to give their credit cards to the RMT cash shop to continue gambling beyond the limits of their in-game currency.
People are gambling real money on EVE digital assets right now.
That gambling is not accessible or convenient, which is a huge difference. CCP is taking an obscure thing that, out of necessity, involves as few people as possible and making it a major feature aimed at mass amounts of F2P cash shop transactions.
Just like back at the dawn of PLEX, this isn’t just a cash grab
Then why does starting a lottery require a purchase from the F2P cash shop with real-world currency? If the sole purpose is to undercut the black market gambling then why didn’t CCP just make this a standard market feature dealing purely in ISK?
Sealed deck. Tournament buy in. When all other things are equal in Magic, luck of the draw wins.
Real money is not required to play or host. People looking to maximize their isk return on their Plex purchase will broker hyper-cubes into the market.
That problem already exists. I promise that your poor gambling addicts already RMT their illicit bets. Only right now they’re making EVE related bets on some sketchy website. It’s better that CCP bring the interface in game where it can be malware free. Gambling EVE assets has already proven to be hugely popular. There’s enough interest and probably activity in underground EVE gambling that CCP/PA decided it was a good investment to capture some of that activity. That’s a good thing for anyone who participates in illicit EVE gambling.
It’s not the sole purpose CCP is monetizing their investment in the feature. If it were just a cash grab you wouldn’t be able to trade hyper-cubes on the standard market, and you wouldn’t be able to bet with isk.