Introducing the HyperNet Relay

dont think they will even read one post

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What do you mean?

Err https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-gambling-businesses/Compliance/General-compliance/AML/How-to-comply/Digital-and-virtual-currencies.aspx

Virtual currencies, eSports and social casino gaming part 3

Gambling with in-game items and virtual currencies
• Where in-game items can be traded or exchanged for money or money’s worth outside a video game, they acquire a monetary value and are themselves considered money or money’s worth.
• Where facilities for gambling with tradable in-game items are offered to British consumers a licence is required.

To be honest your most likely right.

OH LOOK AT THAT!
You can’t convert EVE in-game items for money or money’s worth outside EVE Online.

Do you even read the things you quote yourself?

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Can’t be traded or exchanged for money. If you do you get banned. So they are safe under UK law.

CCP is safe \o/

but they can you can just get baned for it l didnt add that to the post l;ol

“money’s worth” is the key factor and thanks for the c/p.

You can convert the ingame goods to PLEX - alneit indirectly - and as you can pay for a service with that PLEX thus substituting it for RL money it is clearly defined as “money’s worth” in this context. Makes it online gambling.

That’s not CCP doing it though. So again, the Hypernet Relay is not violating the gambling law.

which means that ccp enforces the uk law

its more about that part l just had a very fast read of it and it gets very GRAY with the wording

indirectly is not directly. hence this is not gambling, anymore than me playing poker with rocks is gambling. infact I can probably convert rocks into money, so that is more gambling than this

Please tell me where it is “clearly defined”, because I don’t see a definition of it anywhere in the whole act.

but they cant use the term raffel as that is classed as gambling and they cant use the term lottary lol

By that token, CCP are only providing the H-R facility and the players are “creating the individual raffles” therefore again falling under the descriptio. Sorry, but on every single count you are wrong here.

can easily claim that the relay is not a ‘facility’ in the game that you go to, or that the ingame items are not actually being gambled, but exchanged using tokens.

Not at all my little salt shaker.

You have not had the time to read the full content of both links, nor have you read the minutes of the select committee.

You’ll see that the definitions of ‘gambling’ are explored. You’ll read concering frustrations with respect to being constrained by current legislation. All of which I have mentioned.

Unfortunately, there’s no TLDR version. Enjoy, digest and cogitate - but take a bottle of fluid on your journey - as it’s all very, very dry reading.

Touche and out.

Call it a relay trade then

Probably bc you are merely being obstinate and in no way have read “the whole act” as you claim. Done but thanks for the diversion :slight_smile: