Yes but then I’m sure as hell not going to be wandering into nullsec in a Condor and typing ‘anyone wanna fight ?’ in Local. And I don’t yet have the skills to run the sort of ship that I’d feel confident would dominate. So although you deride it…yes there is a sense of ’ I’m waiting for skills to update’. And although PvE ratting is not perfect practice for the day when ‘proper’ PvP comes…it sure helps.